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Any articles on HBM memory, + why 4gb video mem is suddenly ok for 4k?

To be fair I am pretty sure if titan x was released with 4gb red side would have fallen over themselves slating it.

Basicaly releasing a halo product costing over half a grand with less memory than your mid range products, after banging on about the importance of memory for 12 mth+ leaves you open for comment when you gloss over it in your propaganda presentation.

For all the information AMD have provided about 4k preformance it could be down to pixie dust and unicorn farts because it certainly seems like magic.
 
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SeanDrake said:
To be fair I am pretty sure if titan x was released with 4gb red side would have fallen over themselves slating it.

Basicaly releasing a halo product costing over half a grand with less memory than your mid range products, after banging on about the importance of memory for 12 mth+ leaves you open for comment when you gloss over it in your propaganda presentation.

For all the information AMD have provided about 4k preformance it could be down to pixie dust and unicorn farts because it certainly seems like magic.
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I like your style :-)
 
SeanDrake said:
For all the information AMD have provided about 4k preformance it could be down to pixie dust and unicorn farts because it certainly seems like magic.
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A bit like the non existent negative effects of that 1/2gb slower access memory on the 970 I guess.....
 
personally i want the new amd cards to perform better than 980tis, im not going to switch but competition is good for us the consumer. my 980tis will be 980tis either way
 
I can't understand the obsession over 4gb of vram. People were perfectly happy with 4gb on the 970 ( :rolleyes: ) and the 980.... now it's suddenly a massive problem.
 
Nexus18 said:
Not to forget when the 4GB 2xx gpus were released and 8GB 290x was released, supposedly 4/8GB was pointless back then...

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I don't care about then I care about now.. and 4gb is not enough these days hence why I will keep my 980 ti order.
 
-Mike- said:
I can't understand the obsession over 4gb of vram. People were perfectly happy with 4gb on the 970 ( :rolleyes: ) and the 980.... now it's suddenly a massive problem.
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People on those cards were happy because they didn't really have the grunt to handle 4K with high settings. With faster cards they could work better at 4K, especially in SLI, and this is where in some games they push over over 4GB of memory.

4Gb is perfectly fine for lower resolutions and 4K for many of the current games, ut not all games and perhaps not future games with higher resolution textures and greater assets. It is not hard to understand.
 
-Mike- said:
I can't understand the obsession over 4gb of vram. People were perfectly happy with 4gb on the 970 ( :rolleyes: ) and the 980.... now it's suddenly a massive problem.
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Well again to be fair the people buying the £300ish 970 are not the people the £650 fury x are aimed at.

Are the issues with the 970 a little shady by nvidia, yes they are but my understanding is that in real world usage unless in sli they are minimal. In fact as amd don't seem to want my money with another set of rebrands at my price range so I maybe in the market for a 970.

Look I may seem biased but i am currently using a 7970 and before that cf 5850's i have not had a green card since an 8800gtx. But whatever company is involved I dont like empty promises and spin which is all tbat has been provided by amd.

I will specate now that the show at E3 was designed based on the 970,980 and Tx being nvida's line up. Watch the video while pretending the 980ti does not exist and is much more exciting, in price and preformance the nano, fury and furyx compare impressively against that trio. The nano in it's cute package against the 970, the fury against the 980 and the furyx and it's impressive price/preformance against the Tx(The clues in the name x).

However drop the 980ti into the mix and the waters get muddy with amd potentally having had to rejig prices and clock speeds to compete.

Anyway I am looking forward to finding out more about the new memory used.
 
Because of DX12 and AMD. There's actually some good SDKs coming out of AMD for texture compression methods. But at the heart of it it's now OK because it has to be :p

4gb is still 4gb, it's not 6 or 8gb. Regardless of bandwidth
 
Am I right in thinking that this gen of card will be able to utilise the vram from the second card in x fire?
 
I'm pretty sure I remember articles about the first generation of HBM being limited to 4GB while the 2nd generation with 8GB is slated for late 2015.
So if Fury is a beast but shows signs of memory limits, you just wait for the next generation to be available.

1. Wait for the benchmarks
2. Decide if the memory is limited for your application
3a. Buy the Fury / Buy the 980ti / Wait for the 8GB Fury
3b. Buy nothing because you are just striking while the irons hot to troll the forum
 
MichaelM said:
I'm pretty sure I remember articles about the first generation of HBM being limited to 4GB while the 2nd generation with 8GB is slated for late 2015.
So if Fury is a beast but shows signs of memory limits, you just wait for the next generation to be available.

1. Wait for the benchmarks
2. Decide if the memory is limited for your application
3a. Buy the Fury / Buy the 980ti / Wait for the 8GB Fury
3b. Buy nothing because you are just striking while the irons hot to troll the forum
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2nd gen is 32gb limit :)
 
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