non EU migrants to be sent home if not earning £35k after 6 years. hmm what about salary caps

£35k is a lot more than a lot of people earn, and is far above the threshold needed to be seen as a contributor surely?

This is rooted in ideology not rationality and can only be damaging.
 
Surely we would be better with an Australian system of needed roles = you can stay if you can't cintribute in a meaningful way then **** off.

That would be sensible though.

Racist policies irritate me no end, would rather have 1 million working people from any nationality in the world than a million of our own benefit scroungers who will never fill the jobs that people are removed from if you do kick them out the country.

Basically, I hate the UK, **** hole.
 
There needs to be a rule that anyone citing "the Australian points-based system" should have to explain what that system actually is, lest they end up giving the impression that they are just parroting Farage.
 
Surely we would be better with an Australian system of needed roles = you can stay if you can't cintribute in a meaningful way then **** off.

That would be sensible though.

Racist policies irritate me no end, would rather have 1 million working people from any nationality in the world than a million of our own benefit scroungers who will never fill the jobs that people are removed from if you do kick them out the country.

Basically, I hate the UK, **** hole.

Then leave.
 
There needs to be a rule that anyone citing "the Australian points-based system" should have to explain what that system actually is, lest they end up giving the impression that they are just parroting Farage.

Which part would you like explained to you?
 
Non EU immigrants,Pff..as if thats going to help a fat amount.

Send them all back,EU or not...if your not a professional then you go back..simple,Thats the problem with our government these days they got no back bone to stand up for our country.
 
Sorry I don't understand the point you are trying to make through your posts.

Apologies if I missed something obvious.

I think the point is if you hated as much as you profess you would have left. When asked why you haven't you offered an excuse which is easily countered by the fact plenty of other people not only manage with the same "excuse" but actually do it because of the "excuse".
 
How it would result in a lower non-EU migration figure than we have currently.

It would not result in lower immigration, you clearly misunderstood the nature of my post. I do not care about immigration, I welcome immagration if it is skilled migrants who can contribute to society. I would welcome anyone of any nationality into this country of they can contribute to making it a better place and they want to be here and embrace the culture.

The Australian system, whilst accepting some non-skilled migrants/asylum seekers is a system based primarily around wanting those who migrate to be able to contribute to their society.

This is a good thing.

The policy the government is proposing is moronic, why would you potentially remove a contributing member of society from the country just because of their background? It is a none sense.
 
I think the point is if you hated as much as you profess you would have left. When asked why you haven't you offered an excuse which is easily countered by the fact plenty of other people not only manage with the same "excuse" but actually do it because of the "excuse".

If I leave I want to do so in a sensible manner that would not effect my ability to support my family, hence why I am looking to do so through a work system which will support this. Whilst I do not like a lot of what this country stands for I am not niave enough to think I have it "bad" and so I will continue to work and contribute as I have done until a point where I can sensibly migrate.

If I were younger and commitment free it would be a different situation but the situation is as it is right now.
 
It would not result in lower immigration, you clearly misunderstood the nature of my post. I do not care about immigration, I welcome immagration if it is skilled migrants who can contribute to society. I would welcome anyone of any nationality into this country of they can contribute to making it a better place and they want to be here and embrace the culture.

The Australian system, whilst accepting some non-skilled migrants/asylum seekers is a system based primarily around wanting those who migrate to be able to contribute to their society.

This is a good thing.

Like the system we have, then.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29594642

It simply isn't true that is it easy to migrate to the UK if you are not an EU citizen.
 
If I leave I want to do so in a sensible manner that would not effect my ability to support my family, hence why I am looking to do so through a work system which will support this. Whilst I do not like a lot of what this country stands for I am not niave enough to think I have it "bad" and so I will continue to work and contribute as I have done until a point where I can sensibly migrate.

If I were younger and commitment free it would be a different situation but the situation is as it is right now.

Which means it isn't as "bad" as you have been making it out to be.
 
Which means it isn't as "bad" as you have been making it out to be.

Just because you can live with something does not stop it being bad, but in certain respects this country is a great place to live, I would never dispute that but equally in other ways it is not a nice place to be. You just have to balance those up and make a choice in life, on the balance I could (and dependent on work) possibly will end up here my whole life and in the scheme of things this would not be a bad place to raise a family but there are much better paces out there.

I will concede that perhaps **** was a little overly evocative :)
 
Like the system we have, then.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29594642

It simply isn't true that is it easy to migrate to the UK if you are not an EU citizen.

Did you mean to prove your point by posting a link that shows non-EU immigration figure alone as higher than both Canada and Australia's total figures :confused: that disproves your own point.

But again I am pro skilled immigration so numbers mean nothing (that's twice I hav tried explaining this to you) as long as it is skilled.
 
The Australian system, whilst accepting some non-skilled migrants/asylum seekers is a system based primarily around wanting those who migrate to be able to contribute to their society.

This is a good thing.

The policy the government is proposing is moronic, why would you potentially remove a contributing member of society from the country just because of their background? It is a none sense.

That is the system this government is trying to bring in. No one is being removed solely because of their background but because of their contribution. If they aren't net contributors given enough time then they have to go home.

In principle it is a reasonable idea, it falls over as do many ideas that come from this government due to the lack of supporting alternatives. If they were bringing it in but increasing training places for nurses to slowly replace the people leaving with enough lag in the system so the new nurses could get enough experience then I doubt anyone would have a problem with it.

It's the same with the spare bedroom subsidy, reasonable idea but no smaller properties to move into. So it will be with idea of the state not subsidising employers paying low wages. They will take away the support and employers will do sod all to take up the slack or very little of it.

All are reasonable ideas in principle but the implementation is always **** poor.
 
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