Scrapping of the independent living fund

jsmoke · 24 Jun 2015 at 16:47

I can't see a topic on here about this although it was proposed in Jan of this year so maybe already been a thread - searched a couple of times. No I am not disabled, and for those who don't know the ILF is additional financial support for disabled people at a cost of around £320m a year.

I really find this pretty sickening to be honest, especially after reading some stories about people who rely on this fund, fearing that they won't be able to get out of bed let alone live any kind of meaningful life.

I don't feel I am playing on the 'poor me' card but surely if anyone needs a bit of extra help it's the disabled.

The tories are trying to rediscover their toryeness again.

Thoughts?

George Hincapie · 24 Jun 2015 at 16:49

Where would you take the money from then? They have committed to making 12Bn in cuts, and some pots are protected (Child Benefit).

joey1211 · 24 Jun 2015 at 16:50

Buck Palace needs a refurb. We're all in this together.

Ilikeitblackplease · 24 Jun 2015 at 16:51

Tories for you,

Ilikeitblackplease · 24 Jun 2015 at 16:51

George Hincapie said:
Where would you take the money from then? They have committed to making 12Bn in cuts, and some pots are protected (Child Benefit).

Simple child benefit for 2 kids and no more.

George Hincapie · 24 Jun 2015 at 16:54

matdom said:
Tories for you,

Such hate! How dare they try to deal with the economy properly!

Brutal biff · 24 Jun 2015 at 16:55

How do you find this surprising if tories and their voters had their way they're would be gas chambers for the elderly and the disabled

George Hincapie · 24 Jun 2015 at 16:55

matdom said:
Simple child benefit for 2 kids and no more.

They should just get rid of CB entirely.

George Hincapie · 24 Jun 2015 at 16:56

Brutal biff said:
How do you find this surprising if tories and their voters had their way they're would be gas chambers for the elderly and the disabled

The Pension bill is a tad high...

cheesyboy · 24 Jun 2015 at 16:57

George Hincapie said:
Such hate! How dare they try to deal with the economy properly!

Taking money from poor people does nothing to help the economy.

Poor people spend every penny - give them cash and you boost domestic demand. No-one loses.

George Hincapie · 24 Jun 2015 at 16:58

cheesyboy said:
Taking money from poor people does nothing to help the economy.

Poor people spend every penny - give them cash and you boost domestic demand. No-one loses.

Except the people taxed to give the poor people the money to spend.

StriderX · 24 Jun 2015 at 16:58

We should scrap everyone over the age of 85, that would cut costs.

: D

cheesyboy · 24 Jun 2015 at 17:01

George Hincapie said:
Except the people taxed to give the poor people the money to spend.

Well, no. Because they benefit from the boosted demand: more demand means more profits and more job creation, which means the tax bill is spread among a bigger workforce.

It's all cyclical, money.

doofer · 24 Jun 2015 at 17:01

George Hincapie · 24 Jun 2015 at 17:05

cheesyboy said:
Well, no. Because they benefit from the boosted demand: more demand means more profits and more job creation, which means the tax bill is spread among a bigger workforce.

It's all cyclical, money.

I don't think that's universally true though is it? Surely it would depend which industry you work in?

Ilikeitblackplease · 24 Jun 2015 at 17:09

They should stop subsidising companies, and wind farm projects etc.. they should only subsidise medical research.
Also MPs pension payout should be linked to the state pension payout when it comes to age, so if Joe gets his state pension at 70 so must the MPs. Mps work 13 years and start getting ther pension of 20k plus. so MP at 25 retires ate 38 gets pension of 20K per year for life.

cheesyboy · 24 Jun 2015 at 17:10

George Hincapie said:
I don't think that's universally true though is it? Surely it would depend which industry you work in?

Some win, some lose. Capitalism for you. Choose a different industry to respond to demand

arknor · 24 Jun 2015 at 17:11

George Hincapie said:
Except the people taxed to give the poor people the money to spend.

a study says after 75k earning more money doesn't make you happier

George Hincapie · 24 Jun 2015 at 17:12

matdom said:
They should stop subsidising companies, and wind farm projects etc.. they should only subsidise medical research.
Also MPs pension payout should be linked to the state pension payout when it comes to age.

While the fascination with MPs and their salaries or punishments is understandable, taking any of the measures suggested is going to have no measurable impact on the economy whatsoever. There are too few MPs and the sums involved are tiny.

George Hincapie · 24 Jun 2015 at 17:13

arknor said:
a study says after 75k earning more money doesn't make you happier

That's so not true

Scrapping of the independent living fund

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