Another muslim terror attack - France

Akmeeda · 26 Jun 2015 at 15:11

I was referring to this forum, 2 pages for that thread and there seems to be actual civil people posting in there. This thread however.

And yeah it may be front page today, but a week from now? Forgotten about. Whereas this attack in France will be covered for weeks. That is my point.

dowie · 26 Jun 2015 at 15:14

Akmeeda said:
I was referring to this forum, 2 pages for that thread and there seems to be actual civil people posting in there. This thread however.

And yeah it may be front page today, but a week from now? Forgotten about. Whereas this attack in France will be covered for weeks. That is my point.

France is a bit closer to the UK

a terror attack in London would probably get even more coverage than one in France

Palestine etc.. is unfortunate, but it is further away and a regular occurrence - small attacks there aren't as uncommon and so less newsworthy - big attacks on the other hand from either side do get coverage

Akmeeda · 26 Jun 2015 at 15:15

scorza said:
I'd hope everyone irregardless of their race, religion or nationality would want to protest against mindless violence. Just like how the protests against Palestinian violence that regularly take place attract a diverse crowd. In other words, I know it's hard but do try to remember that you aren't the victim here.

P.S. The Tunisian hotel attack is the main story on the BBC News website and there's another thread about it on this forum.

There's people in this thread stating how they will avoid interacting with Muslims and how there's no such thing as a moderate Muslim. I could go on...

When attacks like this happen, the hatred for Muslims increases, especially by kids in school who don't know any better and learn off their parents. I could tell you about my experience in school after 9/11 but hey Muslims aren't the victim.

There are many victims and backlashes after events like this. Just because you can't see it, does not mean it doesn't exist.

Xordium · 26 Jun 2015 at 15:15

Akmeeda said:
I was referring to this forum, 2 pages for that thread and there seems to be actual civil people posting in there. This thread however.

Care to show me how where one of my posts has been anything other that civil or considered. :confused:

Akmeeda · 26 Jun 2015 at 15:20

dowie said:
France is a bit closer to the UK

a terror attack in London would probably get even more coverage than one in France

Palestine etc.. is unfortunate, but it is further away and a regular occurrence - small attacks there aren't as uncommon and so less newsworthy - big attacks on the other hand from either side do get coverage

There's always an excuse. USA is further away than Tunisia, and yet any shootings that happen there are plastered on our screens. Australia, as far as you can get, and there was large amounts of coverage during the Cafe attack.

I'm not saying there should be less coverage, I'm saying everything should be given equal priority. But sadly, the media has an agenda.

Also just because there are attacks everyday in Palestine does not make it less significant. The taking of a life is the taking of a life. Simple as that.

doofer · 26 Jun 2015 at 15:20

They want to ban Violent Video-Games, Legal Firearms and now even Flags whenever they are linked to violence but Religion can keep on causing deaths whenever it likes because we should 'Tolerate' that. :rolleyes:

Akmeeda · 26 Jun 2015 at 15:22

Xordium said:
Care to show me how where one of my posts has been anything other that civil or considered.

You've misunderstood me. I wasn't saying that anything you've said has been uncivil. Perhaps read through the thread and check some of the responses from others.

deuse · 26 Jun 2015 at 15:23

Akmeeda said:
There's always an excuse. USA is further away than Tunisia, and yet any shootings that happen there are plastered on our screens. Australia, as far as you can get, and there was large amounts of coverage during the Cafe attack.

I'm not saying there should be less coverage, I'm saying everything should be given equal priority. But sadly, the media has an agenda.

Also just because there are attacks everyday in Palestine does not make it less significant. The taking of a life is the taking of a life. Simple as that.

People have died today and your moaning about "coverage" :rolleyes:

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Akmeeda · 26 Jun 2015 at 15:26

deuse said:
People have died today and your moaning about "coverage" .

People die everyday.

And also I said "I'm not saying there should be less coverage, I'm saying everything should be given equal priority. But sadly, the media has an agenda."

new numa hey · 26 Jun 2015 at 15:29

The ignorance and ill informed is strong in this thread.

Avenged7Fold · 26 Jun 2015 at 15:30

deuse said:
People have died today and your moaning about "coverage" .

He is moaning about how its covered and the intentions behind the coverage?

It wouldnt even be a stretch to say the media exploits the deaths of these people for ratings and to push their political agenda.

balky12 · 26 Jun 2015 at 15:32

Akmeeda said:
People die everyday.

And also I said "I'm not saying there should be less coverage, I'm saying everything should be given equal priority. But sadly, the media has an agenda."

God you're boring. You have no argument. All stories are getting coverage.

Getting your panties in a twist over one forum topic having more pages? Common sense would tell you that all would happen is the exact same statements/ arguments/ views would just be duplicated over both threads. So instead of two topic of the same thing, we just have one.

Now take that chip off your shoulder.

deuse · 26 Jun 2015 at 15:33

Akmeeda said:
People die everyday.

And also I said "I'm not saying there should be less coverage, I'm saying everything should be given equal priority. But sadly, the media has an agenda."

Including a cat stuck up a tree and useless news like that?

Go and start up a site and post your heart out. Maybe this will make you feel better.

Akmeeda · 26 Jun 2015 at 15:36

I was making a point, which you clearly never understood. And I said a bunch of stuff in my posts and yet people are nitpicking at certain things, since their brains are most likely bamboozled by the logic of the rest of the post.

But yeah, let the "kick Islam out of Europe" posts continue as they aren't boring at all.

Akmeeda · 26 Jun 2015 at 15:37

deuse said:
Including a cat stuck up a tree and useless news like that?

Go and start up a site and post your heart out. Maybe this will make you feel better.

Lol mate give it a rest.

balky12 · 26 Jun 2015 at 15:38

Akmeeda said:
I was making a point, which you clearly never understood. And I said a bunch of stuff in my posts and yet people are nitpicking at certain things, since their brains are most likely bamboozled by the logic of the rest of the post.

But yeah, let the "kick Islam out of Europe" posts continue as they aren't boring at all.

Your initial piece was well written, thought out, and imo right.

You just went and ruined it by adding;

P.S a Tunisian hotel was also attacked today, but that country isn't as important.

As the last thing to be read, it's going to stick in peoples minds the easiest. Also it was a stupid thing to say, giving people easy ammunition.

Akmeeda · 26 Jun 2015 at 15:47

balky12 said:
Your initial piece was well written, thought out, and imo right.

You just went and ruined it by adding;

As the last thing to be read, it's going to stick in peoples minds the easiest. Also it was a stupid thing to say, giving people easy ammunition.

That's fair enough.

dowie · 26 Jun 2015 at 15:59

Akmeeda said:
There's always an excuse. USA is further away than Tunisia, and yet any shootings that happen there are plastered on our screens. Australia, as far as you can get, and there was large amounts of coverage during the Cafe attack.

I'm not saying there should be less coverage, I'm saying everything should be given equal priority. But sadly, the media has an agenda.

Also just because there are attacks everyday in Palestine does not make it less significant. The taking of a life is the taking of a life. Simple as that.

it isn't an excuse, it is a basic explanation, you seem to misunderstand how the news works

yes minor attacks every day are less significant in Palestine - they happen every day... just like people get shot in the USA every day and that doesn't make the news over here - it is things that are out of the ordinary that become newsworthy... so a US police officer shooting a clearly unarmed black teen is more likely going to be reported on globally - a police officer shooting an armed black teen or a black teen shooting another black teen in the US isn't as those are regular occurrences

and given the shared history of the USA, Australia etc.. stories from there are going to feature more prominently in the UK than say stories from Argentina or Brazil perhaps would

a big terror attack in Australia is unusual and obviously is going to attract coverage - the US on the other hand has thousands of shootings - you're very mistaken if you're under the impression that they're all reported here - like Palestine it is the larger or unusual events that get coverage

Mark A · 26 Jun 2015 at 16:27

Akmeeda said:
That's fair enough.

Plus the victims in Tunisia were mostly British and German, so your point doesn't even make sense.

Xordium · 26 Jun 2015 at 16:28

Akmeeda said:
You've misunderstood me. I wasn't saying that anything you've said has been uncivil. Perhaps read through the thread and check some of the responses from others.

Your implication was that no civil people were posting in here. Yes there is the vitriolic and it's abundant but let's not go down the I am victim road here because we know how that one comes across!

Mark A said:
Plus the victims in Tunisia were mostly British and German, so your point doesn't even make sense.

So maybe now is the time to drop the thing he has acknowledged was maybe not the best thing to say and discuss the substance of his post - the main bit. It is maybe a little confrontational.

The problem with that approach is that you are not examining causation you are demonising people. One can increase awareness the other increases ostracisation. Even I realise this and I'm not exactly a paid member of the Islamic fanclub.