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I've also been watching this. Excellent viewing, and it's really opened my eyes.

I kind of feel a bit embarressed being from a rock guitar background when watching the program.
It seems like the rock guys just turn up wearing stupid clothing, acting like utter plonkers and proceed to bring next to nothing to the table. The shread guy could shread, but he was dull as dishwater. The rest of the rock guys have basically played a blues solo/riff pretty badly, with next to zero originality.

Then along comes the classical and jazz lot and they completely and utterly wipe the floor with them. They have been a joy to watch.

I'm not really a fan of the whole percussive acoustic thing, but I know it's a 'thing' at the moment so it's understandable that there's plenty of them.
 
Dimple said:
Which one, the guy who played the acoustic jazz?
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What really annoyed me was the "Well if it was a classical contest I'd be going through". It wasn't a classical contest it was the jazz contest - he wasn't nowhere near good enough to make the classical grade. Just came across as really cocky.

I thought playing wise the right guy went through. I was impressed with the young lad though who looked 7 (maybe showing my age there) he has a bright future ahead of him as do the others I suspect.

The advice was really good tbh it made me think about how I play and maybe I am ahead of the beat and should be behind at times to be more reactive.

Jonesiani said:
I'm not really a fan of the whole percussive acoustic thing, but I know it's a 'thing' at the moment so it's understandable that there's plenty of them.
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I expect that is some to do with their choice of professional coach too.
 
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Robosapien said:
It's not bad, I watched the first episode, the percussive playing has taken off big style following Rodrigo & Gabriella / Andy McKee / Jon Gnome popularization, but I've been more impressed by recent entries for the Jam Track Central competition online recently:-
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That Jam Track stuff reminds me of all Cliffs of Dover stuff that came in the 90's. Technically amazing but it does nothing for me.
 
This programme reminded me a bit of the portrait artist of the year. Also the other reality "talent" shows. Where I just don't understand the decisions. Seems to me people are picked to make the show interesting, gain attention for the show, rather than relative ability. Its to make good TV. Hence instead of the best players getting through, you get a complete mix of abilities to getting through.

But you kinda have to expect that. That said I'm not an expect and probably tone deaf. So what do I know.
 
There was far too much discussing the people we know about and very little of them playing in the last episode but I thought the standard of the jazz players was high. They all had excellent technique but they lacked experience, individuality and personality. But personal playing style is something that comes far down the road for most I think.
 
I know bugger all about Jazz and I put the winner in last place because I thought he was all over the place and didn't enjoy him at all :D
I put the young lad in first place.
 
Dimple said:
I know bugger all about Jazz and I put the winner in last place because I thought he was all over the place and didn't enjoy him at all :D
I put the young lad in first place.
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He'll go far the young one for sure and not being funny Dimple but you should know - well it's jazz mate - you are supposed to go all over the place! :D
 
Xordium said:
He'll go far the young one for sure and not being funny Dimple but you should know - well it's jazz mate - you are supposed to go all over the place! :D
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Whenever my band (or me) make several wrong notes I always say when the song finishes 'There's a lot of jazz notes in there".
I usually follow it up with "You know what they say, one wrong note is a mistake, a lot of wrong notes is jazz".
I got that off a comedy programme but I can't remember which one.
 
I tend to find the great jazz artists have the ability to make it look completely random and then they start to show you patterns and it's like looking through a mist and not being able to full see the view. And they draw you in and then you see it and it's breathtaking. That's what Monk, Bird, Mingus, Davis, Metheny, etc do and then you just have John McLaughlin who to me just widdles all over the fretboard at 32423423 BPM.
 
The thing with jazz guitar, is that when its played solo, it often sounds disjointed and disconnected.
As soon as you begin to add bass and drums then it all comes together. It's an amazing talent and incredibly difficult to play.
 
I listened to Pat Metheny Group Travels (the 2cd live on) last night - forgot how seriously good that album is. Took me an hour to find as it's not on Spotify. I have noticed Strunz and Farah are now on Spotify and they are worth a listen if people are more interested in next weeks style.
 
Well I feel the right person went through from 4 amazingly talented people. The other 3 kind of dropped the ball tbh. I felt the chap who went through could do a whole lot more guitar over percussion. I really liked that first piece by the Adrian bloke - perfectly played with wonderful expression.

And wow Gabriella - am I in love there.
 
Alfie Glass:confused: - WTF?

I honestly thought the rock guitarists sounded a lot better with a band behind them but Alfie was nowhere near the best.
I really don't know what they heard & saw.
 
Dimple said:
Alfie Glass:confused: - WTF?

I honestly thought the rock guitarists sounded a lot better with a band behind them but Alfie was nowhere near the best.
I really don't know what they heard & saw.
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I came here this morning specifically to see and agree with these posts about Alfie. The kid has great stage presence, and is awfully talented for his tender age, but I thought while the other 13 year old wasn't as flamboyant a performer, he was a far superior player, both technically and maturity of emotion in his playing. I think the guy that should've gone through though was the teacher bloke, I was shocked when Tommy didn't put him through after all the praise he heaped on him.
 
Well I've just caught up on this and I'll echo what you guys have said. He got through even though he messed up at the start and showed the worst technique of all of them. I thought the teacher bloke who wants to look a bit like Vai should have gone through. But as a whole I still think the rock guitarists are by far the weakest group.

I found the classical one interesting too. I felt for the bloke when he said he should have nails at that must have crushed him but he played it so well although I do think I agree and the playing with his fingers does add noise that is not needed and maybe is somewhat distracting. The best one from the heats pulled out although she did look kind of a bit manic and anorexic so maybe it was too much for her.
 
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