Greece Elections

you should do it, I know it sounds selfish but you can always move back if/when things improve... surely better to progress your career overseas and send money back

There was a greek guy at my last company, presumably they hired him quite cheaply initially. Turned out he was really really good, he's now an invaluable member of the team he's in and was recently given a substantial pay rise. The increase alone is probably more than he'd have been earning back in Greece.
 
dowie said:
you should do it, I know it sounds selfish but you can always move back if/when things improve... surely better to progress your career overseas and send money back

There was a greek guy at my last company, presumably they hired him quite cheaply initially. Turned out he was really really good, he's now an invaluable member of the team he's in and was recently given a substantial pay rise. The increase alone is probably more than he'd have been earning back in Greece.
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Same happened at ours
 
There is probably some selection bias - the Greeks who left a couple of years ago are perhaps among the best qualified, forward thinking and are rather switched on/motivated to succeed. Result - they get to a workplace in the UK and they're likely outperforming their peers rather quickly.
 
dowie said:
There is probably some selection bias - the Greeks who left a couple of years ago are perhaps among the best qualified, forward thinking and are rather switched on/motivated to succeed. Result - they get to a workplace in the UK and they're likely outperforming their peers rather quickly.
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youre wrong, those who left are the younger ones and those who can afford the change or have someone they know or relate there. But whats gonna left over here if everybody leaves the place? i dont know, its depressing.
 
Iraklis F.C. said:
youre wrong, those who left are the younger ones and those who can afford the change or have someone they know or relate there. But whats gonna left over here if everybody leaves the place? i dont know, its depressing.
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I'd like to disagree to a point. I myself I'm a victim of the recession (from Cyprus..) and now live and work in the UK (3 years now). I'm in a pretty big company and have seen all sorts of Greeks (inc. Cypriots), from middle aged men with decades of experience to young people fresh out of uni (like myself). It depends if people are afraid or not. I have family/friends in Cyprus who can't wait to get out, and others that have the opportunity and won't.

Recently unemployment went down in Cyprus..by 0.5%. If you look at the numbers though it is because that 0.5% (maybe slightly less) has emigrated to other countries and have stopped claiming unemployment benefit, so in the books it seems they have found work.

I would urge you to take the step and go abroad and find a job. You can always go back.
 
guy we hired was employed in a bank over there, he just realised opportunities for progression were better elsewhere and made the move two years ago - he brought his family with him

I guess yeah you're likely to see a lot of unemployed people with minimal skills too - I'm not really exposed to them through work. But as far as the Greeks in roles requiring some skills/education that I've been exposed to - they've tended to be very competent, very switched on people.
 
They need to just wipe the slate clean for Greece, it isn't even real money anyway. Just a shame that the governments of the world bail out banks cos they are "too big to fail" yet a country full of people can be left with crippling debt repayments and economic ruin
 
All this talk of further loans is ridiculous, they money will be used to pay off other debt. It is just a money merry-go-round between the ECB and IMF.

If Tsipras caves in, the Greeks will riot. The fact that it has gone on for so long shows that the euro zone is desperate for Greece to continue to be a member.
 
MrMoonX said:
Yes but essentially the world bank etc is saying to Greece, agree to crippling interest repayments or else, it's retarded, it's a country why is there even interest
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no they've been given artificially low interest rates and they've been allowed to restructure their debt - they were also supposed to make certain changes to spending - they elected an anti austerity party who decided they didn't want to play ball

what does the world bank have to do with this?
 
dowie said:
no they've been given artificially low interest rates and they've been allowed to restructure their debt - they were also supposed to make certain changes to spending - they elected an anti austerity party who decided they didn't want to play ball

what does the world bank have to do with this?
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I meant IMF, anyway it's just a money circle and adding interest is just stupid, none of this is really money and just highlights the failure of capitalism and the world economic system
 
MrMoonX said:
I meant IMF, anyway it's just a money circle and adding interest is just stupid, none of this is really money and just highlights the failure of capitalism and the world economic system
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you don't really know what you're talking about.... IMF, world bank whatever... who needs interest etc..etc..

I'm sure they can try an alternative economic system if they like, I mean electing a left wing government has worked out really well for them so far
 
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