As am I...
Gay marriage legalised in the whole US by the supreme court
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Other religions believe in end times too.
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Fair enough. God has down sweet **** all for a longass time anyway, so I'm not too concerned.
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It is the big Christian prophecy where all stuff and disasters happen, Jesus comes back and then takes so many away with him leaving this world to Satan (or summat like that).
Also known as End of Days, Final Days and other names.
end of the day,,,, if you were blind folded. and someone got down on their knees. you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
Christians, Muslims, Catholics, Hinduism, Buddism, Rastafari all believe in end times. I don't get why people think it's just a Christian thing.
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Because no one else bangs on about it. A Muslim girl at work actually mentioned the end times to me, she said they're coming...ridiculous.
Well, she is allowed to say and believe what she likes.
My older brother never shuts the **** up about it either. He knows I don't give a **** in any way whatsoever. But any opportunity to bring up the end times, there we are, end times discussion. Attack in Tunisia? End times. School massacre? End times. Gerrard slip? End times.
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I take it you wouldn't object to anyone trying to get "married"
Two siblings for example?
A father and daughter as another example?
Three people wanting to "marry" each other?
It is completely natural, because it occurs naturally, without force and without choice. If you're gay, you're gay you don't choose to be. That is natural, just like homosexuality in the animal Kingdom.
Furthermore, the likelihood is that your little make believe friend called God is not real. So that law isn't a thing you can use as a reason as to why gays are repulsive and unwanted.
So in summary; you're expressing signs of idiocy. Better education, upbringing and manners would have done you well. Alas I suspect you lack all of those. However, I further suspect you're just another sad troll.
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Homosexuality is disordered.
The biological purpose for sexual attraction is to encourage procreation. Two people of the same sex cannot procreate. For a person to have a sexual attraction towards people of the same sex is disordered. It goes against the natural purpose of sexuality.
Yes, homosexuality has been observed in nature but then so has cancer and all sorts of other things. Just because something is observed in nature doesn't mean it is part of the natural order.
And here we have another example of how poor biological knowledge is in general society and also on these forums.
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Let's be clear incest is not the same thing as a homosexual relationship between two consenting adults. The prohibitions against incest and the societal opprobrium come from two main reasons 1) if there are any offspring then the chance of those offspring having genetic abnormalities is much increased and 2) with incestuous relationships there is often an abuse of position and trust by the elder party. There may be other reasons and the above might not exist in all cases but those cover the main issues.
You don't have to like that homosexual marriages exist but inventing dubious comparisons isn't really advancing your argument against it.
Indeed,
There are separate & justifiable reasons to condemn incest outside of simply 'thinking it's unnatural'.
Besides, the argument natural vs unnatural is fundementally flawed. Firstly terms like unnatural & the natural order are nothing about nature & entirely based on the subjective viewpoint of the person using that term.
In reality, everything we do say & create is natural - cars are just as natural as beaver dams or birds nests. Homosexuality occurs in nature, as well as in us - it's as natural as anything else.
Saying something is unnatural is a worthless & flawed line of debate, usually peddled by idiots & bigots who can't form a coherent argument.
Oh my.
You're confusing a few issues here.
1. Marriage is a legal union between 2 individuals that is recognised by the government and gives specific benefits to those individuals. Property being the number one thing I can think of off the top of my head.
2. A child does not need a mum or dad as role models. How many single parent families have you met in your life. On this point you will need to bring some data to the table that supports the stance you're making.
3. Being gay is not unnatural, evidenced by the fact that humans are not the only species on earth that have gay pairings, you only need to look at the rest of the natural world to see this and if you do a quick Google will find supporting evidence.
4. You cannot claim a God created everything and then make the argument that God didn't create gay humans and they're therefore not natural. Logic please.
5. Having a certain % of the population as gay is actually a huge benefit to society as typical a gay individual can be a positive contributor but consume less resources.
5. Do you vote DUP?
When you think about it, spending all your time worrying about, thinking about, arguing about and being overly concerned about what another dude does with his penis with another man, it's a pretty gay way to spend your Sunday.
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