Attack on Tunisian hotel

[bitslice]

Why should they?
This is the problem with how a lot of people think, if one Muslim says or does something then certain people will tar them all with the same brush.
Have you ever apologised when some white Christian or Catholic has committed murder or abused a child?

Christians have a hierarchy, if something goes wrong then the head of the church apologises publicly.
That's why people end up thinking muslims either don't give a stuff or secretly agree with the situation.

Mohammed didn't anticipate the social media requirement to publicly apologise for his violent death cult, but when you can just behead all of your critics then I can see why he didn't think the issue was worth considering.

 

[RoboCod]

As I pointed out earlier, a million of us protested in London against Iraq.

Hmm, that's quite different though. Many of the protesters are there to object against things like foreign policies and war in general. It's not a bunch of people apologising for the extremist actions of a lunatic who cut someone's head off or something.

Any how, many of us don't wish to apologise for Iraq. I don't.

 

[SexyGreyFox]

As I pointed out earlier, a million of us protested in London against Iraq.

Do you also apologise for any white person, religious or not, who commits some type of atrocity?
What about that young EDL supporter who tried to take revenge for Lea Rigby by trying to kill a Sikh, have you apologised to the Sikh community on his behalf and then apologised to the Muslim community to say he was really after one of them but because he was from the EDL he didn't know the difference?

 

[bitslice]

What about that young EDL supporter who tried to take revenge for Lea Rigby by trying to kill a Sikh, have you apologised to the Sikh community on his behalf and then apologised to the Muslim community to say he was really after one of them but because he was from the EDL he didn't know the difference?

It is up the the liberal fascists who cynically imposed mass multiculturalism on people without asking, who should apologise. They created this whole situation in the first place.
But they won't apologise because they still don't recognise the disharmony they have created all over Europe.

 

[Danthus]

For all those people who are burying their heads in the sand, you might want to listen to this guy.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02vt2lc

 

[SexyGreyFox]

It is up the the liberal fascists who cynically imposed mass multiculturalism on people without asking, who should apologise.

When exactly did Britain not become multicultural?
What DNA would be found if we all gave a test?
Druids, Romans, Angles, Jutes, Saxes, Normans, Vikings and all other assortments of mixed race breeding I bet.

 

[Danthus]

Multiculturalism has manifested itself in the form of people self segregating.

 

[Akmeeda]

Such a terrible tragedy in Tunisia, it pains me to see innocent life so pointlessly wasted. What a cruel, cruel world this can be.

As a Muslim, I don't see why people can't just get on with each other in this country. Some of my best friends are white christians, and at the end of the day we are all human! Thankfully, most people have this same attitude but the ones that don't seem to shout the loudest.

And I don't believe in having to apologise for the actions of others. Should the Muslims in Kuwait be apologising on behalf of terrorists for blowing up the Mosque? These terrorists are trying to create divisions in our society, if we let that happen then they win.

 

[Danthus]

Such a terrible tragedy in Tunisia, it pains me to see innocent life so pointlessly wasted. What a cruel, cruel world this can be.

As a Muslim, I don't see why people can't just get on with each other in this country. Some of my best friends are white christians, and at the end of the day we are all human! Thankfully, most people have this same attitude but the ones that don't seem to shout the loudest.

And I don't believe in having to apologise for the actions of others. Should the Muslims in Kuwait be apologising on behalf of terrorists for blowing up the Mosque? These terrorists are trying to create divisions in our society, if we let that happen then they win.

So what do we do then?

You say you won't apologies but you have hardly been damning in your condemnation, these people claim to represent your religion, they are damaging Islam and the name of Muslims and yet you don't appear to be denouncing them, only offering you sympathy for the loss of life.

 

[bitslice]

When exactly did Britain not become multicultural?
What DNA would be found if we all gave a test?
Druids, Romans, Angles, Jutes, Saxes, Normans, Vikings and all other assortments of mixed race breeding I bet.

That's missing the point,
you've been around as long as I have in Stoke and would have noticed when all the Sikhs arrived from Uganda in the 70's.
Suddenly we had lots of corner shops open till late, it was great, never a whiff of trouble from any of them. I lived next door to one family and never noticed them until it was party time and twenty silver Mercedes turned up

Same when all the Hindus came over to fill gaps in the NHS, they were more British than the Queen, Doulton figures and glass dolphins all over the house.

Compare that to the ethnic ghettos we have now in every major city, always creating trouble, always rioting, always getting up somebodies nose.

Take a trip down to Walsall and tell me if that is anything like Stoke in the 70-80's

 

[Akmeeda]

So what do we do then?

You say you won't apologies but you have hardly been damning in your condemnation, these people claim to represent your religion, they are damaging Islam and the name of Muslims and yet you don't appear to be denouncing them, only offering you sympathy for the loss of life.

They don't represent me and they don't represent my religion. I have nothing to do with them and yet I should be apologising for them? Their religion is not Islam, but rather a superficial fabrication of it that they use to justify their actions and use that fabrication to recruit vulnerable men.

I denounce them as much as anyone else, their actions are that of animals. Do I have to denounce them in every post I make now?

ISIS wouldn't even be what it is today if Iraq wasn't invaded. Perhaps everyone in the UK and USA should be apologising for what the actions of their leaders have indirectly caused? That's how stupid your request sounds.

 

[Mark A]

I dont think anyone needs to be apologising for what these cowardly nutters are doing, but i have seen far too many people trying to justify what they have done, even in this thread. There is absolutely no justification for mowing down innocents on a beach. Anyone who claims it's "like for like" due to things the west has done are almost as bad as the cowards committing the murders.

 

[scorza]

They don't represent me and they don't represent my religion. I have nothing to do with them and yet I should be apologising for them? Their religion is not Islam, but rather a superficial fabrication of it that they use to justify their actions and use that fabrication to recruit vulnerable men.

I denounce them as much as anyone else, their actions are that of animals. Do I have to denounce them in every post I make now?

ISIS wouldn't even be what it is today if Iraq wasn't invaded. Perhaps everyone in the UK and USA should be apologising for what the actions of their leaders have indirectly caused? That's how stupid your request sounds.

I don't think anyone has ever said that anyone other than the perpetrators should apologise for their actions - why does this myth keep getting repeated?

 

[Danthus]

They don't represent me and they don't represent my religion. I have nothing to do with them and yet I should be apologising for them? Their religion is not Islam, but rather a superficial fabrication of it that they use to justify their actions and use that fabrication to recruit vulnerable men.

I denounce them as much as anyone else, their actions are that of animals. Do I have to denounce them in every post I make now?

They are Muslims representing Islam,. you might not like it, it maybe uncomfortable for you but that is the reality of it.

ISIS wouldn't even be what it is today if Iraq wasn't invaded. Perhaps everyone in the UK and USA should be apologising for what the actions of their leaders have indirectly caused? That's how stupid your request sounds.[/B]

So why attack tourists on a beach?

 

[Akmeeda]

They are Muslims representing Islam,. you might not like it, it maybe uncomfortable for you but that is the reality of it.





So why attack tourists on a beach?

Lol okay mate. I apologise for them blowing up a mosque, I apologise for them attacking tourists on a beach, it's all really my fault. Now can you apologise for the white guy that was rude to me on the bus this morning? You might not like it, but he represents you, since he was white. It may be uncomfortable for you, you might not like it, but that's the reality of it.

And I don't know why they attacked tourists on beach? Maybe send them a tweet or an email and ask them directly?

 

[413x]

Non extremists shouldn't have to apologize but some form of mass media coverage of denouncing should definitely be done.
Maybe it does, I don't know,. Either it isn't publicised or it doesn't happen

I don't usually get moved by news stories, as there's always some crap going down somewhere. But the personal stories of 'man saves partner by taking bullet' and the one where the new husband loses his wife etc really hit the heart

For the terrorists It's so decentralised, only has to work once, people doing it really believe in it... It's not going to end well or ever. How can you keep tabs on so many people who merely seem 'IS linked' or simply 'disgruntled'

I haven't a clue about a solution, it's not like you can carpet bomb the whole region, this brainwashing is everywhere.

Also fact that it's often radicalized westerners with little to no criminal activity? How can someone who lives out here with on face of it, nothing terrible in their life do things like this?

I can understand if you've lost your family to a bomb from the west, I get how that could convert people, but otherwise.. Just unfathomable

It's going to turn us all xenophobic.
There's a growing list of places I wouldn't visit that gets longer every summer
Wonder how much tourism long term damage has been done. I expect severe

 

[n111ck]

Lol okay mate. I apologise for them blowing up a mosque, I apologise for them attacking tourists on a beach, it's all really my fault. Now can you apologise for the white guy that was rude to me on the bus this morning? You might not like it, but he represents you, since he was white. It may be uncomfortable for you, you might not like it, but that's the reality of it.

You are equating people being gunned down on a beach to somebody being rude to you? No wonder Islam is in such a mess.

 

[Akmeeda]

You are equating people being gunned down on a beach to somebody being rude to you? No wonder Islam is in such a mess.

I was making a point. And I don't know what that has to do with Islam, no personal insults. Please see the FAQ. Thank you..

 

[Johno please?]

Any how, many of us don't wish to apologise for Iraq. I don't.

Nor me, I don't care if a billion people marched against it, most people at that rally probably knew NOTHING about Iraq or Saddam.

You could actually argue that the failure to leave Syria to its own devises has aided the rise of ISIS, I would infact.

Can anyone translate the left banner?

 

[bitslice]

I can understand if you've lost your family to a bomb from the west, I get how that could convert people

Many people in Europe lost family during WWII, some were even tortured by the Japanese.
The Jews lost whole generations of their family and had to leave the country.

Did any of them go around suicide bombing the Germans or the Japanese for decades afterwards ?

Do the Japanese hate us for levelling whole cities, or the Germans for allowing their country to be split down the middle ?

No, because we are all civilised cultures and these other people are not.
So no, I don't understand these animals.