Really upset an Irish man on Saturday...
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Of course it would have! Haha
All kidding aside he no doubt has a chip on his shoulder about dam all.
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Not sure you are going in the right direction mentioning chips on shoulder, potato famine and all
Not sure you are going in the right direction mentioning chips on shoulder, potato famine and all
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There really isn't any direct comparison. But...
Its a bit like an American mistaking an English person for French, or European, as if there was no UK. Or saying the UK is just an Aircraft Carrier for the USA. Or some sort of weird 52nd State, after the War of Independence.
So then you have to ask would you respond as Monkeynut suggests.
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Or mistaking Biohazard for an Englishman.
Who wouldn't? You might call them an idiot, but what would there to be upset about? Obviously tensions can run a bit higher concerning Ireland and it's relationship to Great Britain, doesn't make it a less numptyish reaction.
Until recently there has been military/paramilitary conflict over whether Northern Ireland is part of the UK (Being the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland).
So even at the least touchy end of it you're siding on the conflict by saying it (albeit inadvertently), at the other end you're suggesting ownership of the whole of Ireland by Britain, a wholly separate country with who the conflict has largely been with.
I personally think it's daft to react to anything like that, but there are people for who it's about as insulting a thing as you could say to them.
It's a bit like Linux vs Microsoft back in the day. The Linux people used to hate Microsoft, with a passion, portraying them as this big nasty evil cooperation hellbent on dominating the world. Then the red hat Linux people realised they could sell their product for profit, Out went the open source, free to all loyalists, and shortly after the whole debate basically fizzled out.
Gather you just said it for a laugh but I wouldn't be too impressed if you said it having only just met. Unless of course you were actually oblivious to what you said. Certainly wouldn't kick up a fuss about it though. Now, if you also started harping on about potatoes, being thick or diddly eye stuff I'd tell you to **** off as you'd clearly only say that to get a reaction.
If you were someone I knew well it'd just go down as banter and I'd give it back just as much.
Get a lot of idiots on both sides, as seen in this thread. Tends to be a class thing. Shame really as the Irish and English can get on brilliantly. Just have to check out the difference in the atmosphere between a football and Rugby game.
If you were someone I knew well it'd just go down as banter and I'd give it back just as much.
Get a lot of idiots on both sides, as seen in this thread. Tends to be a class thing. Shame really as the Irish and English can get on brilliantly. Just have to check out the difference in the atmosphere between a football and Rugby game.
The OP demonstrates quite well there are Irish people who harbour animosity towards the English. It is pathetic that these people would even remotely think that an individual is somehow responsible for historical events, yet here we are seeing them (from both sides) in full flow.
I agree that people who harbour grudges need to get a grip and get on with seeing how much we have in common, rather than carrying a chip on their shoulders. I was attempting to point out why this kind of animosity exists between a minority of English and Irish people. You should also never assume that animosity or even hatred is confined to council estates. As someone from Northern Ireland I am am confronted by middle and upper class bigots on a regular basis. Unfortunately, our entire political institutions are built on the politics of bigotry or them and us.
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Clearly that's a silly overreaction. I've been called British on numerous occasions and it never bothers me. I've been called worse! 
But what i find comical is how offended people like JOSH86 got when someone mentioned warrenpoint but seemingly it's ok to make jokes about Bloody Sunday and a Famine that killed at least a million people
But what i find comical is how offended people like JOSH86 got when someone mentioned warrenpoint but seemingly it's ok to make jokes about Bloody Sunday and a Famine that killed at least a million people
A proper Irish person would call you a bow lock and then expect you to buy another beer. He would also laugh at you without you knowing, they/we are ace at that.
You've met them all then have you?
It's like the common misconception among Irish bigots that the English have no sense of humour. Then they will laugh at Peter Kay or an episode of Blackadder.
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....most southern Irish couldn't give a flying **** what you say or think, they are the friendliest and some of the brightest people on the planet. They have a whit that is second to none and an ability to swear better than any other nation on the planet without it sounding rude, god knows how, they just do. Irish family and a tonne of Irish friends and colleagues. Can see myself retiring to Dublin one day, love the country, love the people, love the outlook they seem to have on the work life balance.
....most southern Irish couldn't give a flying **** what you say or think, they are the friendliest and some of the brightest people on the planet. They have a whit that is second to none and an ability to swear better than any other nation on the planet without it sounding rude, god knows how, they just do. Irish family and a tonne of Irish friends and colleagues. Can see myself retiring to Dublin one day, love the country, love the people, love the outlook they seem to have on the work life balance.
Nice impartial opinion there!
