The Time for a deal has past.
Nate
No it has not.
The Time for a deal has past.
Nate
No it has not.
Apologies, you are correct, the bailout actually expires on Wed night. after that Greece is holed below the waterline. No Deal will repair the damage after that point.
Nate
my wishful thinking meter went of scale, thats impossible
However, I think they will vote Yes and this whole sorry saga will bounce along for few years to come. A yes vote will be the end of the current government and there will be fresh elections, which will take time to sort out, which will probably mean the resumption of emergency assistance, and we're back to square one.
I was unaware that Ireland had actually be repaying part of its debts, and paid back a considerable proportion of their IMF monies early. No quite certain on the reasoning, might have been at a worse % than their bailout package.
Currently around 107% of GDP in debt, but with a surplus in their budget for the past two years. I suppose another ten similar years and they might end up at the 60% debt to GDP target they are aspiring to achieve. Ten years is a long time to try to maintain such.
What political persuasion are you in Greece? Just wondering from a sort of feet on the ground perspective.
Apologies, you are correct, the bailout actually expires on Wed night. after that Greece is holed below the waterline. No Deal will repair the damage after that point.
Nate
The PM said tonight that if the result is a YES, he will resign. What a muppet, i dont see a future in him...

Quite an interesting analysis of Greece and Syriza.
http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...za-greece-referendum-voters-failure-austerity
Syriza sold themselves as an anti-austerity party, but the truth has always been that Greece will face austerity. The only choice is whether it's in/out of the Euro/EU.
Can anyone break down the Greece predicament into a small summary for me?
Is it basically - we borrowed, we can't pay, we're leaving the Euro?
"They are a worse position now than when they were rescued"
Austerity did not work and only made the problem worse.
we borrowed, we can't pay, but we don't want to leave the Euro