Clarkson blames fracas on cancer ** Don Edit - No he doesn't **

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Don't get how the Netflix deal fell through. Netflix have unlimited money.

Money isn't everything, ITV offered them something NF couldn't: revenge, after being compared to a pedophile by the BBC the opportunity to air at the same time as Top Gear and hurt the BBC was probably too tempting to pass.
 
Nope, because that can be achieved without removing a hand from the steering wheel or taking your eyes off the road. Phone conversation (unless hands-free) or texting requires that you either take a hand of the steering wheel or in the seriously dangerous act of texting while driving you take both a hand off the steering wheel AND your eyes off the road.

For reference texting is actually legal if it's hands free too.
 
So its illegal to have a conversation with the passenger next to you :confused:

Why ask such a silly question you know the answer to...

Of course it's not illegal to have a conversation with the passenger, but that's not to say it doesn't cause a distraction and thus increase the risk of an accident, which it does... for example : every time you turn your head to look at your passenger you're not looking at the road.

Hell, every time you do not pay 100% attention to everything around you sitting bolt upright with your hands on the wheel at 10 - 2, you increase your risks.

But that's the real world, it's not about eradicating risk, just understanding and mitigating it where possible.

I find passengers quite useful really as when they scream it's usually an indication I've missed something :p
 
So Burnsy, why is it legal for Clarkson et al to have one hand off the wheel talking on 2 way radios, but not on a phone?

Because the people who write the laws don't have a clue?

Most (all in my force) Police cars have a button on the gearstick to talk on the radio so there's no real need for a Police exemption.
 
But that's not the reason why driving with a hand held mobile phone is illegal, it's the fact that it's in your hand which is the same as the 2 way radio.

Even though we all know it's the distraction of the conversation that's actually the dangerous part more so than holding something in one hand and having one hand on the wheel.

So the stupid situation we have is that it's ok to have a long continuous conversation on a hands free mobile (dangerous), it's ok to have a long conversation while holding a 2 way radio in 1 hand (dangerous) but it's illegal to have a short conversation while holding a mobile phone in 1 hand (the least dangerous of the 3 scenarios)

no

have you ever been trained to use a radio?

you don't have a conversation per say, you send short messages

you can't have a conversation in the way you can on a telephone, you can send short transmissions and you can listen to transmissions
 
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have you ever been trained to use a radio?

you don't have a conversation per say, you send short messages

you can't have a conversation in the way you can on a telephone, you can send short transmissions and you can listen to transmissions

Well your just splitting hairs if you're trying to argue that is any more or less a distraction while driving tbh. Anything where your concentration is directed away from driving plus holding something in your hand is going to reduce your effectiveness somewhat

What a thrilling direction this thread has gone to.

To be fair, it was hardly a riveting thread anyway :p
 
Changing the radio station whilst talking to your passenger isn't illegal, so why would talking on a 2-way radio be? There's no need to take your eyes off the road with a 2-way radio.
 
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You have less control with only one hand on the steering wheel and both your reaction speed and range of quick avoidance/adjustment is significantly reduced with only one hand! Considering hands-free kits are dirt cheap now their really isn't any excuse to be holding phones when driving these days.

You have even less control when looking at your phone while texting.

As far as I know driving with one hand is not illegal, neither is talking to someone while driving. Ergo to me the main reason why using a mobile whilst driving is illegal is because of texting and playing with it, rather than just holding it in one hand and talking, which is what you do with a radio.

I may be totally wrong but that's my take on it. A good example is that video of the coach driver recently staring down at his phone while texting and running in to the back of a stationary vehicle.
 
Because the people who write the laws don't have a clue?

Most (all in my force) Police cars have a button on the gearstick to talk on the radio so there's no real need for a Police exemption.

Why is that any different? You still have one hand off the wheel, which is the argument above. Changing gear takes a couple of seconds, holding the button down would take your hand off the wheel for as long as your talking (unless of course if it's and on/off switch).

For an extreme argument these last few posts seem to be advocating the banning of manual cars. You don't need to remove your hand from the wheel when driving with an automatic, ergo they are safer. :p
 
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Why is that any different? You still have one hand off the wheel, which is the argument above. Changing gear takes a couple of seconds, holding the button down would take your hand off the wheel for as long as your talking (unless of course if it's and on/off switch).

For an extreme argument these last few posts seem to be advocating the banning of manual cars. You don't need to remove your hand from the wheel when driving with an automatic, ergo they are safer. :p

My point was that it's not handheld regardless.
 
Which backs up the point of legislators not having a clue I guess.

I doubt whether gluing your two way radio to the dash is going to make it any more/less safe than having it in your hand, especially if both systems involve you taking your hand off the wheel.:D
 
Well your just splitting hairs if you're trying to argue that is any more or less a distraction while driving tbh. Anything where your concentration is directed away from driving plus holding something in your hand is going to reduce your effectiveness somewhat

it is less of a distraction to send a short transmission, or do anything else briefly like change the radio station than it is to hold an ongoing conversation on your mobile phone

I don't disagree that your concentration is also diverted away from driving, I'm just pointing out that it isn't the same as holding a conversation on a mobile phone

and yes it has probably escaped the ban partly because there are simply people - police, other emergency services, lorry drivers, taxi drivers etc.. who rely on radios
 
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