8th July Budget

M1k3H · 5 Jul 2015 at 23:35

robfosters said:
Why would they refuse? Is there a financial reason for refusing? Do you get more employee rights on longer hours?

My gf had the same happen to her. On zero hours, meant to share 40hours with another. Other employee left, asked her manager for full 40 hours, declined under "what happens if you are sick/go on holiday".

Uther · 5 Jul 2015 at 23:36

robfosters said:
Why would they refuse? Is there a financial reason for refusing? Do you get more employee rights on longer hours?

I suspect there is some sort of incentive for a company to only offer low hours. A new Sainsburys has just opened here and all the jobs seem to be under 20 hours a week!

Caged · 5 Jul 2015 at 23:37

Surely more staff on less hours = "look how many jobs we've created!"

MeatLoaf · 5 Jul 2015 at 23:38

M1k3H said:
My gf had the same happen to her. On zero hours, meant to share 40hours with another. Other employee left, asked her manager for full 40 hours, declined under "what happens if you are sick/go on holiday".

Pretty much this. More of us to cover sixckness/holidays

Uther · 5 Jul 2015 at 23:38

Caged said:
Surely more staff on less hours = "look how many jobs we've created!"

Yes...

robfosters · 5 Jul 2015 at 23:39

It does make me laugh. Gideon thinks that cutting tax credits will force wages up?

No it wont. Simple as. Workers like MeatLoaf will be in trouble and that's just not fair.

Danthus · 5 Jul 2015 at 23:45

robfosters said:
It does make me laugh. Gideon thinks that cutting tax credits will force wages up?

No it wont. Simple as. Workers like MeatLoaf will be in trouble and that's just not fair.

No, he just gets a better job, then he can buy a big house.

That is how it works, right?

Uther · 5 Jul 2015 at 23:46

The so called 'hard working families' look to be the ones who are about to get reamed.

robfosters · 5 Jul 2015 at 23:47

OldCoals said:
No, he just gets a better job, then he can buy a big house.

That is how it works, right?

Yes. Thousands upon thousands of people will be able to do this instantly and hallelujah, the country is saved.

Caged · 5 Jul 2015 at 23:52

OldCoals said:
No, he just gets a better job, then he can buy a big house.

That is how it works, right?

Look if he'd tried harder and been born to rich parents then he wouldn't be in this position.

Woden · 5 Jul 2015 at 23:52

OldCoals said:
No, he just gets a better job, then he can buy a big house.

That is how it works, right?

Exactly. This is why the likes of Tesco and Asda have 25 supervisors for every shelf stacker.

Danthus · 6 Jul 2015 at 00:08

The changes to Housing Benefit will save £1.7 billion over five years.

Caged · 6 Jul 2015 at 00:10

A cool 0.3% of the total deficit. Hitting the deficit where it hurts. Making a real difference.

Rroff · 6 Jul 2015 at 00:13

Woden said:
Exactly. This is why the likes of Tesco and Asda have 25 supervisors for every shelf stacker.

A lot of retailers are massively reducing what they will pay new supervisors, management staff, etc. (often increasing their responsibilities into the bargain) - typical for a store manager job ad around here at the moment to be 20-25K basic, upto 35K with experience when it wasn't long ago it was ~30K basic and well into the 40s with decent experience.

Ilikeitblackplease · 6 Jul 2015 at 00:22

MeatLoaf said:
Yes until I find another job. Someone left our place recently who was also on 16 hour contract. I asked if I could have there hours instead of recruiting and was told no. Even an extra 8 hours would help as I can claim working tax on 24 hours

financially they are better off if they divide at 40 hour job into 2 20 hour jobs.

Rroff · 6 Jul 2015 at 00:30

matdom said:
financially they are better off if they divide at 40 hour job into 2 20 hour jobs.

Likely they'd make it 2x 15-18 hour jobs with some overtime as needed. Less cost, better flexibility, etc.

Caged · 6 Jul 2015 at 00:53

It's to keep people under the employers NI contribution threshold.

Ilikeitblackplease · 6 Jul 2015 at 01:41

Caged said:
It's to keep people under the employers NI contribution threshold.

For the same job they hire two people for a job that could be done by one person and claim a free government grant as well, is another corporate scam.

ThePirateHulk · 6 Jul 2015 at 04:00

Dolph said:
London is currently the preserve of the wealthy and the poor, especially in some areas. You are not going to solve the housing costs in London even by building as there isn't the land to do it. Benefits trap the poor in London, unable to increase their earnings because they won't be able to afford to live without the subsisidy. Is that traps really the best thing for people?

So your solution is to slash benefits?

Caged · 6 Jul 2015 at 07:59

We prefer that you call it 'free the poor from being tied down to one spot by pesky things such as a home and possessions'.

8th July Budget

Wise Guy

Wise Guy