Why do people feel so comfortable lying to councils?

Bin men round here are ******* useless. They'll do the bins if they can be bothered, then just dump them back all over the path outside.
Its a fairly regular occurrence to have to phone them up to come and actually do their job.
 
Pft, least you lot have wheelie bins. New Forest DC have been rejecting the idea for years. Apparently bins torn apart by animals are better than "ugly" wheelie bins.
 
estebanrey said:
I don't deny what you say but saying "Councils (implying all of them) are willing to lie to us" because you can cite some bad ones isn't logical.

It's like saying OCUK must be crap because you had a bad experience with a competitor.
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True.....but then you are saying 'people', implying 7 billion people. Your job was only dealing with ones who complain. Most of them probably aren't the most up-standing citizens.
 
Naff8000 said:
True.....but then you are saying 'people', implying 7 billion people. Your job was only dealing with ones who complain. Most of them probably aren't the most up-standing citizens.
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True but I have experience in working for private companies as well where I saw a lot less 'bending of the truth' there.

My point is it seems people are a lot more likely to lie to their council than they would to their local retail outlet.
 
I am going to turn this on it's head - Why do councils waste so much of the tax payers money and are so inefficient. This in turn, gives us the answer to the OP.

There is pretty much nil respect for local councils because they are in many cases run by incompetent people who waste millions of pounds a year, have no idea how to run a business (which in order to be efficient and cost effective is how a council should be run), employ a number of staff who are incompetent because procedures mean it can be very difficult to exit staff from the public sector, even if they are incapable of doing their job and generally speaking people are fed up and therefore feel they will just try their luck.

Please don't confuse this with me saying all local authority staff are incompetent because that I know is not true - I know many people who work in local authority, some of who are very hardworking, most of which share my views. I also did a small stint of work for 12 months in a non-departmental government office and experienced it for myself.
 
Aberdeen City Council show nothing but hatred for the people in/around the city. I wouldn't be surprised if half the city was lying to them about something.
Unfortunately, as single white employed male, who doesn't get a bin collection, I have nothing to lie about. :(

You'd never get away with half the **** the council pulls in the private sector.
 
majnu said:
How dare you call them bin men in this feminazi and pc age, they are refuge collectors
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Waste disposal engineers I believe.

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When I was a nipper, Huntindgonshire District council decided that galvanised steel bins were no longer acceptable and we had to use bin bags. Mt parents ran a shop ans were only allowed 2 bin bags a week (the same as everyone in the village, despite paying much more in Business Rates). All the cardboard boxes got used for deliveries or returned to the cardboard compactor at the wholesaler.

My dad bought a huge hand cranked rubbish compactor, as child labour (along with weighing out 5lbs of potatoes into potato bags), it was my job to crush the rubbish. You could get about 7-8 bags of rubbish crushed into each binbag!
 
I had a dispute with our bin men, in that my bin was blown all of 2 foot down the drive so they didn't take it. Emailed the council, and funnily enough there was no response of any screen grabs, just a polite response advising they would look into it. Didn't hear anything else. I guess that means i'm in the 1%.

I appreciate that your bin should be at the edge of your property, but a little bit of common sense wouldn't go amiss. If it's been very windy all day, and the bin has moved a little bit then at least have the decency to want to do your job, and not be a tool about it.

My bin men also think it's amusing to leave bits of card/paper all over the drive when they've done a crap job of tipping the tub into the lorry. Obviously picking up their litter is too much to ask.

I'm coming to the conclusion that my bin men are *******.
 
Our wheelie bin lid was about 0.0025mm open one week. The next week we got a massive A4 pack through the post regarding reducing household waste and recycling. Needless to say all that went in the recycling bin...
 
McBain said:
I had a dispute with our bin men, in that my bin was blown all of 2 foot down the drive so they didn't take it. Emailed the council, and funnily enough there was no response of any screen grabs, just a polite response advising they would look into it. Didn't hear anything else. I guess that means i'm in the 1%.

I appreciate that your bin should be at the edge of your property, but a little bit of common sense wouldn't go amiss. If it's been very windy all day, and the bin has moved a little bit then at least have the decency to want to do your job, and not be a tool about it.
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The average bin when full weighs over 20 kilos so unlikely to be blown a couple of feet by a bit of wind.
 
Dis86 said:
My favourite council must be the Democratic People's Republic of North Tyneside. Never have i encountered so a woeful collective of human beings.
Their traffic management is legendary. There are three main roads in to the commercial centre of north tyneside. The council in a moment of sure genius decided to...completely close one. Reduce another to a single lane. Reduce the final one to a contraflow traffic light system. Well played. Well played. It was taking people from my office up to two hours just to get out of the car park, even if they left work as early as half three.

That's why people don't like councils and lie to them. Ineptitudes like that.
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Cobalt by any chance? god I dont miss the days of working there. It was horrendous getting out there and the two hours really is not an exaggeration.

Pathetic council as well! I moved into a property in September last year and it took until December till I could actually pay council tax due to them having my name down as Alan instead of Aaron. After months of repeated phone calls and emails they finally changed my name after I had to go to the office in wallsend to "prove who I said I was" and then they went and messed up my single resident discount which took another 2 months to resolve. Shambles!!!
 
it works both ways I have reported the bin men on 2 occasions that they have been on rounds at 6am and the council lied to me
 
Its the roundabout at the top of cobalt near the village that does, the left and lane should be straight over not turn into cobalt if your an audi driver or work for ee/accenture/ntc :mad::mad:
 
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