Why do people feel so comfortable lying to councils?

it works both ways I have reported the bin men on 2 occasions that they have been on rounds at 6am and the council lied to me

Could you have been mistaken? I had a complaint once that are guys kept waking a guy up at 4 am so I politely informed him that the first person didn't even get to the depot until half 5.

In that case he had heard a bin lorry and assumed it was the council when in fact it was a Grundon vehicle.

Which highlights another issue, private companies don't have to listen to residents or councillors and can operate whenever they want so be careful what you wish for. We have a councillor at the moment moaning that our commercial waste vehicles are emptying bins in his area at 6 am. That's fine, we've told them not do his area later in the day but being a commercial service the businesses they are servicing could easily cancel the contract with us and hire a private company who could do the bins at 3 am if they wanted to.
 
I had to complain to the council today, bin men didn't bother to empty my recycling bin, no note left on it to state why it wasn't emptied either.

Bin was placed outside the night before and is still there now; won't be moved until they come back.

It's not on tbh, I mean how hard is it to empty the bin?. Lazy *******
 
I had to complain to the council today, bin men didn't bother to empty my recycling bin, no note left on it to state why it wasn't emptied either.

Bin was placed outside the night before and is still there now; won't be moved until they come back.

It's not on tbh, I mean how hard is it to empty the bin?. Lazy *******

Do you honestly believe bin men just walk around randomly emptying bins? We'll empty that one, won't bother with that one, empty those two, leave the next one etc?

If your bin was a genuine missed bin (these really only occur for people who live on corners or opposite junctions) they'll be sent back which is far more effort for them than it would have been if they just emptied it so your automatic assumption they saw your bin and thought "I can't be bothered with that one" makes no sense.

If you think they're lazy I'd like to invite you to come to my place and we'll stick you out for a day on your feet, walking several miles in all weathers whilst having to pull heavy bins out every minute and we'll see how easy and relaxing you think it is. You'd probably throw in the towel after a couple of hours.
 
We used to have a regular at work who was on the bins, despite being a 50-odd year old woman, she was one of the strongest people I have had the misfortune of restraining.
 
Do you honestly believe bin men just walk around randomly emptying bins? We'll empty that one, won't bother with that one, empty those two, leave the next one etc?

If your bin was a genuine missed bin (these really only occur for people who live on corners or opposite junctions) they'll be sent back which is far more effort for them than it would have been if they just emptied it so your automatic assumption they saw your bin and thought "I can't be bothered with that one" makes no sense.

If you think they're lazy I'd like to invite you to come to my place and we'll stick you out for a day on your feet, walking several miles in all weathers whilst having to pull heavy bins out every minute and we'll see how easy and relaxing you think it is. You'd probably throw in the towel after a couple of hours.

I don't know what goes on in their minds and neither do you.

It could be a genuine mistake, although I don't see how with only 5 bins to empty in our cul-de-sac. But then again we are taking about unskilled workers.
 
I remember the days before wheelie bins where bin men would come in to your shed and take your bin out before emptying it and putting it back.
and ofcourse it had no wheels and was metal
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wow the lid ain't on and he's only gone and taken it anyway
probably scared if your bin isn't by the road because it might have a spider on it

I remember that. I used to talk to them when I was a kid before going out bike riding with friends.

They were cool guys back in the late 80s/early 90s that I remember. Good banter. For so long now you don't really get that since the wheelie bin goes out the night before end of the driveway. You never really see or speak to them like the old days. Since they'd pass you going out to work/school in the 80s/90s and most of the street knew them.

Respect and trust went both ways.


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And then of course there are the collectors who will say that the recycling bins were put out late even when a timed image was presented, not once but 3 times in one month. And the council department not being the slightest bit interested until I bombarded my local councillors with a photograph every day showing the bins still lying unemptied.

Motal of the story is there are liers on both sides.
 
My bin collectors are a fine lot. 3 different lots (General, Recycle and Garden), all do a good job to what I expect on alternating weeks.

Yesterday they were later than usual. No complaints as the weather was crap. Delay happens.

A while back they forgot my bin, I emailed my local council, bin promptly emptied the following morning (by a separate collection team driving a pick up truck looking thing)

It's not always bad reviews of them, though I can see how different regions can have different problems as not everyone runs from the same company with the same contract and work ethics.
 
I remember the days before wheelie bins where bin men would come in to your shed and take your bin out before emptying it and putting it back.
and ofcourse it had no wheels and was metal

wow the lid ain't on and he's only gone and taken it anyway
probably scared if your bin isn't by the road because it might have a spider on it[/QUOTE]

I remember the days when bin men would put you in their black book if you didn't give the a Christmas box.

Did you wear a "council workers lazy shirkers" t-shirt?
 
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