VED Shake up Announced in Conservative Budget

Whilst these new bands make a lot more sense I still don't know why they don't just abolish the separate VED and put it on fuel instead. The more you drive, the more you pay. Surely that's the fairest way.

Because it would put the road haulage industry out of business overnight.
 
Because it would put the road haulage industry out of business overnight.

Remove the majority of taxation from fuel for haulage. Is it difficult to keep receipts?

And if the monies raised by this go back into the roads I'll eat my own testicles. Why can't we just have a flat rate per vehicle like normal countries do? And it still does not address foreign vehicles that get away without paying.

Useless. :rolleyes:
 
I bet all those Prius car owners are will upset now.

How long will it be until we hear " The VED has not risen since it was first introduced so i deem it only fair that we now raise it"

Funny thing is the government encouraged people to buy low emission cars a few years back.
 
I bet all those Prius car owners are will upset now.

How long will it be until we hear " The VED has not risen since it was first introduced so i deem it only fair that we now raise it"

Funny thing is the government encouraged people to buy low emission cars a few years back.

Its not retrospective, why would a current prius owner be upset :confused:
 
In the full knowledge of the tax applicable to it going forward, much the same as every other car buyer with current low ved.
 
It would be unpopular, but why should someone who owns a performance car that may only do 2000 miles a year pay substantially more VED than someone who drives an eco barge 25000 miles a year? What's the logical basis for it when you consider people pay VAT when they buy the car? (questions not aimed at you)

And what's wrong with that? People who do more than the "average" yearly mileage are producing far more carbon emissions than those who buy a nice sports car to use a few times a year. It would add more tax to fuel, but you wouldn't be paying VED every year, so it would only be unpopular to people too dim-witted to manage their finances accordingly.

It will be unpopular with company car drivers who do not get a fuel allowance because their running costs will go up as the company currently covers the VED on the company cars.

/awaits the "well they are getting a subsidised car anyway" arguments :rolleyes:
 
An opportunity missed. For goodness sake, why don't they just add it to the cost of fuel and get rid the the daft VED once and for all. That way, you pay for what you use!!! Simples!!!!!!!!

Two reasons I can think off.

As EV get increasingly more popular they will have to have tax allied eventually and this can't just be added to electricity supply for several.reasons.
Secondly it helps.influence the UK fleet as a whole to be more efficient which is a good thing.
 
Secondly it helps.influence the UK fleet as a whole to be more efficient which is a good thing.

Did VED do that really. Genuine question. Wouldn't the cost of fuel and the euro emissions standards for new engines play a bigger role in influencing how efficient a vehicle is.
 
Did VED do that really. Genuine question. Wouldn't the cost of fuel and the euro emissions standards for new engines play a bigger role in influencing how efficient a vehicle is.

Of course how many people do you know who specifically purchased a car as it had extremely low bed. As silly as it maybe it does influence a lot of people choices. Even if in reality it makes up for such a small percentage of the running costs.
 
Of course how many people do you know who specifically purchased a car as it had extremely low bed. As silly as it maybe it does influence a lot of people choices. Even if in reality it makes up for such a small percentage of the running costs.

Yes people are idiots BUT

A lot of people have been claiming that this change (or even the removal of VED altogether) will result in manufacturers not investing in technology to improve vehicle efficiency, on the basis that everything is equally pegged at £140.00 so what's the point.

Surely this can't be the case as VED isn't what drives vehicle efficiency it is legislation. The new Euro 6 emissions standard cuts the amount of NOx a diesel engine can produce. Surely manufacturers can't simply ignore the new emissions standard just because VED has been changed.

Then you have BIC and fuel costs, plus in general car adverts regard fuel efficiency as bigger billing than VED rates.

I'm just saying any change in VED isn't suddenly going to result in vehicle efficiency going backwards or even stopping, as there are many other factors which influence why vehicles are becoming more efficient.
 
No ones saying its going to go backwards. But it deffinatley influenced the UK fleet make up, which is what you actually questioned.
Things like euro 6 are just minium, cheaper VED meant more vehicles which surpassed these targets being purchased. This will reduce, however there's still zero rate.
 
So anyone currently driving a car around the 05 plate area paying over 140 quid a month is about to have a fair chunk taken off the value of their car?
 
So anyone currently driving a car around the 05 plate area paying over 140 quid a month is about to have a fair chunk taken off the value of their car?

It's for new cars only....and your 05 plate car will be well over 10 years older than the cars that are affected. There will be no impact.
 
not just new cars, but only new cars registered from 01/04/2017

so another year and a half before the new bands come in.
 
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