Gay marriage legalised in the whole US by the supreme court

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1184 is pretty recent in relative terms on the subject of marriage. Seeing as the world was created in a few days I can understand how you might regard 1184 as the dinosaur age.... Oh wait, forget what I just said.
 
RoboCod said:
1184 is pretty recent in relative terms on the subject of marriage. Seeing as the world was created in a few days I can understand how you might regard 1184 as the dinosaur age.... Oh wait, forget what I just said.
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Yea, it is very recent!! lol....:rolleyes:
 
koolpc why do you think it is your right to deny marriage to any two people who want it? You can believe what you want, you can hate who you want, I don't have the right to stop you, just like you don't have the right to stop gay people getting married.

"Because my special book says they can't" is not a valid reason. Most of the people in this country don't care if the bible tells us gay sex is wrong, as a society we've moved past the point of needing a 1700 year old text of dubious origin to tell us what is right and what is wrong. We, as a democratic society have decided to allow gay people to marry. You are free to say what you want against that, I won't attack you because of it but I really, honestly just want to know why you think you should ever have the right to deny marriage to anyone?
 
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You are attacking me here!! Talk about hypocritical! You just hate Christians thats why you have to hurl abuse my way! Who have i attacked?
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You have been pretty unpleasant to homosexuals.

You possibly need to drop the persecuted Christian act too, it is your fairly abhorrent beliefs that are being attacked rather than because you are Christian. I work in a RC school and none of the RE staff, headteacher or priest have ever espoused the views you have.
 
estebanrey said:
I'll ask again, how can you argue 'only being able to get married to someone they are not attracted to and can't love' is equal to 'being able to marry someone you love and are attracted to'

You are arguing that polar opposites are equals, which makes no sense.



I'll ignore your pathetic implication that gay people are perverts and just ask (again), how two people of the same sex being allowed to legally define their relationship as 'marriage' affects you, your relationship or the rest of society in any way, shape or form?



Worst analogy ever.

The problem with your mindset is all your arguments are dependent on the presupposition that being gay is unnatural, unwanted, harmful, not normal etc.

Once you accept that the reality that is homosexuality is abundant in nature and therefore both normal and natural your reasoning against it falls apart.

You're acting as if being gay is some kind of lifestyle choice and that if someone who identifies as such just married a women, he'd see the errors of his ways and live a happy married life like any heterosexual couple.

The truth is if a gay man married a woman it would be a loveless courtship doomed to fail. So telling gay people they have the rights as you is asinine as you have the right to marry someone you love and possibly live happy ever after with but without gay marriage they don't.

The irony is forcing gay people to marry straight woman is genuinely encouraging an unnatural relationship.
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I don't think you even need to appeal to nature to justify homosexuality.

Living in a house, driving a card and using a computer is far from "natural". We should go back to living in a cave, beating our chests and raping women and children - because in natural rape is common and perfectly "normal".


When ever someone argues anything homophobic with words such as natural and normal then they have already lost and are best resigned to dragging their knuckles back to their Neanderthal cave. Being white isn't "normal" by a fairly robust statistical measure, nor is being tall, short, fat, thin, blonde haired. Having more than $5000 of assets is not normal either, in fact money is not natural for starters.

Should we really outlaw anyone who isn't black and within 2 standard deviations of the mean height and weight and have more than a few hundred GBP?
 
Darg said:
koolpc why do you think it is your right to deny marriage to any two people who want it? You can believe what you want, you can hate who you want, I don't have the right to stop you, just like you don't have the right to stop gay people getting married.

"Because my special book says they can't" is not a valid reason. Most of the people in this country don't care if the bible tells us gay sex is wrong, as a society we've moved past the point of needing a 1700 year old text of dubious origin to tell us what is right and what is wrong. We, as a democratic society have decided to allow gay people to marry. You are free to say what you want against that, I won't attack you because of it but I really, honestly just want to know why you think you should ever have the right to deny marriage to anyone?
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I am not denying anybody. I am saying marriage should be for a man and a woman! The law allows for a gay couple to get married. That is fine! I am only giving my opinion! I wish people would not get their knickers in a twist.

I dont hate gays! My nephew is gay. I must hate them as i have different views is it?
 
RoboCod said:
There isn't really any point in debating the matter with individuals who are dead set in their intolerance (which is also called being bigoted, but it would appear that calling them bigots is far too offensive for some precious cup cakes so I'll refrain from labelling them that).

There is no changing an intolerant view point. Just be happy in the knowledge that their viewpoint will slowly phase out and cease to exist in society. The only way it might exist will be in a completely unacceptable manner, one that they could be charged for by law, much like racists are dealt with.
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You can't use logic to persuade someone that their opinion is wrong when they never used any logic to formulate their opinion in the first place. You can't rationalize with the irrational.
 
RDM said:
You have been pretty unpleasant to homosexuals.

You possibly need to drop the persecuted Christian act too, it is your fairly abhorrent beliefs that are being attacked rather than because you are Christian. I work in a RC school and none of the RE staff, headteacher or priest have ever espoused the views you have.
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The minister at my parents church is a lesbian.
 
RDM said:
You have been pretty unpleasant to homosexuals.

You possibly need to drop the persecuted Christian act too, it is your fairly abhorrent beliefs that are being attacked rather than because you are Christian. I work in a RC school and none of the RE staff, headteacher or priest have ever espoused the views you have.
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Unpleasant? I dont hate gays! Their acts are abhorrent to me yes!

People always persecute any Christian on this forum. It is the OcUK way! Funny thing is i know loads in an RC school who think gay marriage is totally wrong!
 
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