Greece Elections

This is the immediate analysis from the BBC's Europe correspondent Chris Morris: " The details are not yet clear. Greece is all but bankrupt and it's now been told it has to push legislation on a series of reforms through parliament in the next three days - before any talks on another financial bailout can begin. Eurozone finance ministers had presented an additional list of demands - some of which have been watered down, some of which proved desperately hard for the Greek government to accept. Among the last sticking points were the role of the IMF in a future bailout, and the amount of money Greece would have to raise through privatisation and then deposit in an account outside Greece."
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Next hurdle will be the Greek Parliament and we must assume that the plug will be pulled if they don't pass the reforms.
 
I wonder if the EU will start changing its boring old tune?

I would like to see a backbone at some point, i really do like the idea of a Union, but frankly unless its all or nothing, its a sham'y mess of ****.
 
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Now we know how the UK government should behave towards the EU - instead of taking the logical, measured approach of negotiating a new agreement then let the British people vote on it we should behave like spoilt children, throw our toys out of the pram, take Europe's whole economy to the brink before performing a last-minute u-turn.

Having said that, if we did try doing the above, something tells me that certain countries like say, France and Spain wouldn't be as keen to keep Britain in the EU as they were for Greece.
 
scorza said:
Now we know how the UK government should behave towards the EU - instead of taking the logical, measured approach of negotiating a new agreement then let the British people vote on it we should behave like spoilt children, throw our toys out of the pram, take Europe's whole economy to the brink before performing a last-minute u-turn.

Having said that, if we did try doing the above, something tells me that certain countries like say, France and Spain wouldn't be as keen to keep Britain in the EU as they were for Greece.
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If we were in the same position (Not really comparable...tbh), our GDP speaks for itself, when it comes to what other countries think.
 
Stunning to see farage is right about Germany and the EU after all - all Merkal wants to do is humiliate Greece. Lebensraum is alive and well after all.
 
Harlequin said:
Stunning to see farage is right about Germany and the EU after all - all Merkal wants to do is humiliate Greece. Lebensraum is alive and well after all.
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Not really, when you actually listen to what he says, he always makes sense. It's just the media who twists everything, and the majority of people believe the media.

He's been saying this for years, yet seems to fall of deaf ears
 
scorza said:
Now we know how the UK government should behave towards the EU - instead of taking the logical, measured approach of negotiating a new agreement then let the British people vote on it we should behave like spoilt children, throw our toys out of the pram, take Europe's whole economy to the brink before performing a last-minute u-turn.

Having said that, if we did try doing the above, something tells me that certain countries like say, France and Spain wouldn't be as keen to keep Britain in the EU as they were for Greece.
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Some in Europe would argue that holding an in/out referendum is forcing the issue in a similar way to Greece.

The only difference is the UK is in a much stronger position than Greece, and Europe might have to listen.
 
Stretch said:
The only difference is the UK is in a much stronger position than Greece, and Europe might have to listen.
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Grexit would do the EU much more harm than Brexit. Grexit means the collapse of the Euro; Brexit means an annoyingly recalcitrant country sinking itself to spite the EU.
 
scorza said:
Now we know how the UK government should behave towards the EU
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It's a mute point now, the UK's EU referendum is basically decided, the is no way the yes campaign will be able to convince people to vote to stay in, not when 60+ year old UK workers are paying tax that's being used to pay pensions to retired 40+ Greeks, by bending over for Greece the EU has basically won the UK referendum for the out campaign.
 
ubersonic said:
It's a mute point now, the UK's EU referendum is basically decided, the is no way the yes campaign will be able to convince people to vote to stay in, not when 60+ year old UK workers are paying tax that's being used to pay pensions to retired 40+ Greeks, by bending over for Greece the EU has basically won the UK referendum for the out campaign.
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UK money is not paying for Greek pensions. Apart from our commitments to the IMF, we've not contributed anything to the eurozone bailout funds. It's a eurozone problem. Which is why the UK wasn't represented at the Greek negotiations.
 
well it might

but even if it does it shouldn't be a surprise if have another farce like this in the future...

there is no chance the Greeks are going to want to carry on with this austerity in the long term... someone else will get elected on the promise of ending it and they'll try to pick up where the current bunch of clowns have spectacularly failed
 
Mr Jack said:
Grexit would do the EU much more harm than Brexit. Grexit means the collapse of the Euro; Brexit means an annoyingly recalcitrant country sinking itself to spite the EU.
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Yes, but the UK is asking for much less than Greece, and the UK contributes far more.
 
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