Securing patio doors and gate

McGraw · 14 Jul 2015 at 14:10

Hi.

I want to put some additional security on out patio doors and gate.

Been looking at patlock and wash jammers...our doors open normally, they don't slide. What's best here?

I also need to padlock our gate. Was thinking of a coupe of hasp/staple/padlock setups but what's the minimum thickness/standard I should be looking at?

Budget is around £100.

Thanks a lot.

bitslice · 14 Jul 2015 at 15:00

McGraw said:
I want to put some additional security on out patio doors

I used some small key bolts

http://www.screwfix.com/p/securefast-patio-door-lock-white/13541

I've got longer ones but I don't know where I got them, the smaller ones are a bit fiddly.

Mainly you don't want a bloke free to stand there, so fit a PIR high above it first

I also need to padlock our gate. Was thinking of a coupe of hasp/staple/padlock setups but what's the minimum thickness/standard I should be looking at?

It's more about how they are fixed into the wood, ask yourself if you had a lump hammer and a wrecking bar, could you bend it off or lift the gate off its hinges.

I like those steel bars that go across the whole width
http://www.simplygardenbuildings.co.uk/a1-shedbar-shed-door-security-bar-8379-p.asp

Mark A · 14 Jul 2015 at 20:18

If the patio doors are toughened glass there's not much point paying a fortune for locks as they will just break the glass. If they are plastic with 5 point locking then the best thing you can do is just replace the eurolock with a antibump/snap like the Avocet ABS.

McGraw · 14 Jul 2015 at 20:32

Ok thanks, some food for thought.

bitslice · 14 Jul 2015 at 21:45

If you don't have a burglar alarm to protect against someone breaking the glass, then you can get standalone acoustic glassbreak detectors, Interlogix makes one.

LeeUK · 15 Jul 2015 at 01:11

Must would be thieves won't break the glass as they won't want to make a sound unless you live out in the sticks. Replacing the cylinders with Avocet ABS locks would be good along with adding those internal patio door locks if it is a sliding door.

Hasps on gates can easily be pulled off with a crow bar and padlocks cut with bolt cutters. It's all about making them not want to burgle your property and move along to the next instead.

Mark A · 15 Jul 2015 at 02:59

I have replaced quite a few units where thieves broke the glass. Toughened glass breaks fast and leaves no dangerous shards in the frame so they can be in straight away. Especially if you leave any valuables lying around they can see through the glass.

Kuros · 15 Jul 2015 at 15:16

LeeUK said:
Must would be thieves won't break the glass as they won't want to make a sound unless you live out in the sticks. Replacing the cylinders with Avocet ABS locks would be good along with adding those internal patio door locks if it is a sliding door.

Hasps on gates can easily be pulled off with a crow bar and padlocks cut with bolt cutters. It's all about making them not want to burgle your property and move along to the next instead.

I'd argue the opposite, myself. Only from what I've heard, people trying to burgle your house would rather make one sharp noise than lots of small noises.

People tend to hear the first noise, then wait for it to happen again before actioning it.