BBC licence fee could be means tested everyone pays regardless of whether or not they own a telev

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It is such a security risk to have tvl knocking on doors and entering houses. A rapist dream to be able to do that. I wouldn't let a stranger in my house. They could easily drug me and rape me, even more likely with women and single moms at home with children. There should be no one knocking on doors asking to enter the house on this day and age.
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Many times this!

I had one knock on my door, kinda tricked me into saying I was the owner then proceeded with telling me who he was :p He has such an attitude of what he said was right and he was entitled to come in. I said no I'm busy only to be faced with sarky comments and wanting further reasoning as to why I wouldn't let him in.

erm... because its my house? /Door

Now TG has gone I don't even think the missus watches anything on BBC, I'm wondering why we should be forced to pay the TV license. Yes we have sky yes we have the possibility of using BBC channels, but we don't.

I'm with either making it a sub service or simply forcing them to show ads, after all wasn't there a case where someone modified the TV so it didn't actually receive the BBC frequencies then there was some kick off about that preventing people from doing it in the future?

I don't feel it should be bundled into normal taxation either, unfair to those that don't intend to use the service.
 
byeo said:
I don't know all the ins and out's of the licence fee but what's wrong with introducing a pay wall to view the BBC content ? Give the people who don't use their services a choice without being forced to pay ?
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The license pays for vastly more services than just TV programming, so it'd be impossible to pay wall the lot (ie - radio stations for example).
Which is why i'm all for making the BBC an essential service and incorporating it into national taxes - everyone is using some form of BBC service (youview/freeview/freesat platforms etc) even if they don't watch BBC TV channels.
 
Roar87 said:
It's not paid for by the government, the TV license isn't a tax
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Semantics, the proposal essentially makes it one, and even in its current state, the TVL has a legal protection which no other subscription based entertainment service is afforded.

It's naive to think that the BBC is completely impartial and has no inherent bias towards the entity which protects its revenue stream, even if it doesn't directly pay it.
 
visibleman said:
The license pays for vastly more services than just TV programming, so it'd be impossible to pay wall the lot (ie - radio stations for example).
Which is why i'm all for making the BBC an essential service and incorporating it into national taxes - everyone is using some form of BBC service (youview/freeview/freesat platforms etc) even if they don't watch BBC TV channels.
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No I don't use any of the above, and I resent having to pay for a service I don't use. I am already paying for line rental on a phone line when there is no phone attached to it, I require it for my broadband and nothing else.
 
Xordium said:
I'd happily pay if the BBC reverted back to actually doing the news properly and produced proper educational programmes other than the utter dross they shovel out. Till that time they can f off.

And why should the poor pay less for TV - maybe make them more so they get off their arses from watching TV and get a proper bloody job. Lazy scrounging so and so's.
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The countries power nearly topples over Eastenders.
 
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visibleman said:
The license pays for vastly more services than just TV programming, so it'd be impossible to pay wall the lot (ie - radio stations for example).
Which is why i'm all for making the BBC an essential service and incorporating it into national taxes - everyone is using some form of BBC service (youview/freeview/freesat platforms etc) even if they don't watch TV.
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I do not agree. The BBC is not an essential service and should not be classed as such. The Health Service, Ambulance service are classed as essential services. Police, Firebrigade are classed as emergency services. You view/ freeview or freesat platforms: This was a switch of service to digital platform from UHF. As to your suggestion the BBC should be funded through national taxation: this should not be the case let alone be even contemplated.
 
CyZMyAssBaby said:
This is a fare point, and of which if the UK goverment wishes to fund. But this should not be done through TV licensing. The general public have a right to choice. If UK interests wish to be applied abroad then this can be through the appropriate goverment deaprtment which is funded through general taxation.

Albeit the commercial advatages that can be brought to countries around the world through commercial advertising therfore will fund the BBC broadcasting interests abroad. taking into account the license fee pays for these staff news offices around the world. As far as I am concerened this adds even more reason as to the BBC should be commercialised through commercial advertising. Taking into account the viewers and radio listeners around the world do not have to pay the BBC license fee. The UK resident is funding the world population who use BBC services through the £145.00 license fee.
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You do know that BBC worldwide made the BBC a profit of £157m......
 
arknor said:
BBC not bias?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...mistakes-not-reflecting-publics-concerns.html

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/jul/03/bbc-deep-liberal-bias-immigration

yea bbc not biased at all!
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Not to mention the completely unbiased, impartial and fair coverage of the Scottish Referendum. Definitely not biased.

On the other hand I do see where the government is coming from. It would be terrible for Torquil and Harriet that work in the BBC's diversity inclusive programming department to be forced out of their jobs. It is important that we plebs continue to make sure those guys are able to live the lifestyle they are entitled to.
 
byeo said:
I don't know all the ins and out's of the licence fee but what's wrong with introducing a pay wall to view the BBC content ? Give the people who don't use their services a choice without being forced to pay ?
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Because the government over the last 70 years or so has decided that having a public service broadcaster with the ability to do good quality broadcasts free of commercial pressure available to all is possibly a good thing, and once it goes paywall that completely goes away and it just becomes another ITV or C5 :)

Certainly it's the only broadcaster in the UK that seems willing/able to do anything like local news on the radio, or cover consumer affairs and financial advice on it's programmes without avoiding doing any reports on the likes of Safestyle, BG, most of the banks :)

When people have said about getting rid of the TVL as it is at the moment, I've pointed out several times that this would likely be one of the options, as it's what a number of EU countries do (some like France IIRC have you sign a legal document that can get you into serious trouble, to say you don't have a TV at all, others just add it to the council tax equivalent, or other services with no option of opting out at all).
 
Yup, scrap the anti market jobs for the boys BBC tripe, since the CofE went out of fashion it's where soft public school kids go for jobs if they can't hack the rigours of the armed forces or City.
 
lovelyhead said:
Do you think it is fair that people who never watch live TV at all should be forced to pay for it through their taxes?
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Absolutely, it's a service that is deemed to benefit the country, has mandates to cover a wide range of topics, including education and tests new standards. It is no different to any other infrastructure whether you directly use it or not. As long as there's a strong mandate and they are held to it.
 
arknor said:
Modern world not everyone gives a crap about english rubbish television....
ridiculous that they expect everyone to fund it like some communist country.
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*correction*... socialist

Communism would actually be a good thing, so far the closest humanity has come to true communism are tribes in the Amazon and Native Americans...
 
The BBC has high standards in many areas, these standards should be maintained as a British institution.

For example show me a commercial radio station with output anywhere close to what Radio4 produce?
 
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