BBC licence fee could be means tested everyone pays regardless of whether or not they own a telev

AtticusFinch said:
The trouble with that approach is that not enough people will not pay for it - look at the availability of "free" pirated media content available today. The other issue is that competitors produce viable alternatives to the BBC, I genuinely believe that without the enforced TV licence regime (to which the vast majority submit) the Beeb would be gone in a year.
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But according to the BBC poll 90%+ adults watch their services. Therefore one can assume according to their statistical data the BBC is, and can be sustained through pay per view
 
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I think we should rethink the fishing license and make them mandatory in line the TV license fee.

TV license is just another way of taking money from the poor to give to the rich, no wonder torys like it
 
CyZMyAssBaby said:
It is not a tax. Any proposal to seek the license fee as an additional tax measure is wrong. The general public should have the right to choose if they wish to purchase a license. So hence it would be better to have the BBC as pay per view.
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Except your argument falls down as it is a tax. And has been recognised as an official tax for years.

arknor said:
I think we should rethink the fishing license and make them mandatory in line the TV license fee
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A silly statement, fishing doesn't have a charter, doesn't benefit the uk as a whole etc.
 
Not according to the annual report

CyZMyAssBaby said:
But according to the BBC poll 90%+ adults watch their services. Therefore one can assume according to their statistical data the BBC is, and can be sustained through pay per view
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See the problem with your argument is that most people behave broadly morally. Given that a the moment there is no choice (if you do actually access the BBC content) but to pay the annual licence fee (unless you lie about it) there is clearly a very high level of use. Some of that must boil down to - I've paid for it, so I might as well watch/listen/browse etc.

The annual report states that 48% of those polled (a minority) support the licence fee. Only 20% - a much smaller percentage supported the notion of pay per view/subscription services.

What that tells me is that it is highly likely, in the event that the "compulsory" licence fee was abolished, there is far less support for a pay per view/subscription service and therefore there would be a much reduced audience for the products produced by the BBC.

It's impossible to be precise, but it seems highly likely that the sustained popularity of the BBC is less about the wonderful content and more about the value for money that's already been handed over - which in turn flows from the desire to "do the right thing" rather than deceive anyone to avoid payment of the licence fee.
 
John40 said:
The BBC should be BBC 1 and 2, R1 R4 AND R5, and that would be ample, why on earth does the BBC need a web presence when so may others do exactly the same.
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It doesn't need any of all this added fat. Their tentacles spread far and wide and it's a complete waste of resources. The services you mention would just right for this public broadcasting service.
 
lovelyhead said:
To be fair, as long as you are not watching RT for unbiased news on Russia you do get a different view on the news than is pushed by the BBC. It is best advised to take all sources of news with a pinch of salt and do your own research.
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So true, watch it along with Fox News and Al-Jazeera and the truth with be somewhere there.

BBC I find sit somewhere nicely in the middle.
 
Glaucus said:
Except your argument falls down as it is a tax. And has been recognised as an official tax for years.



A silly statement, fishing doesn't have a charter, doesn't benefit the uk as a whole etc.
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Maybe if the fishing tax was mandatory they could afford some boats to charter

Just think what 100 pound per year per household could do for the UK fishing industry
 
arknor said:
Maybe if the fishing tax was mandatory they could afford some boats to charter

Just think what 100 pound per year per household could do for the UK fishing industry
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I think any business in the world would love it's income to be generated in the same way the BBC's is!
 
anything I don't mind said:
I would pay for the bbc if it was like cspan. Book reviews and politics. I'll never pay for that mind numbing pantomime bs like the voice. It should be a subscription. Fully voluntary.
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Part of this inquiry thing going on is for the BBC to stop the ratings chase with shows like that which I am all for. I actually don't watch much live TV at all let alone the BBC but I do use the iplayer for radio shows I enjoy. For me I feel they do a pretty great job with the dance/electronic music selection on there and it caters to my needs. I could probably do without the tv license all together buuuuut, the things it does that I occasionally watch it does better than the other channels. I enjoy MOTD, the football coverage, wimbledon, the Olympics were superb and the other bits and pieces of sport. Compare this with say ITV who also show some football and frankly are horrible at it.
 
I still find myself amazed that, especially on a forum supposedly populated by people with a higher level of education/intelligence than most other fora, so many don't know the difference between a verb and a noun when talking about the TV LicenCe.
 
AtticusFinch said:
See the problem with your argument is that
The annual report states that 48% of those polled (a minority) support the licence fee. Only 20% - a much smaller percentage supported the notion of pay per view/subscription.
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So 48% of respondents support the license fee. 20% do not support the license fee. What did the remaining 32% of respondents support?
The BBC does not provide value for money for its television services ( this is my opinion as a license payer) Either way it is an old antiquated institution that requires radical overhauling with its provision of service. The license should be replaced by pay per view.
 
to clear something up...from th tv licence site
To state the BBC‟s policy with respect to those places, occupied as residential accommodation and
non-residential premises, whose occupier has declared
that there is no television receiving equipment being used at the address
to receive live broadcasts(known as making a No Licence Needed claim

the small print being
'being used at the address to receive live broadcasts', you can have as many tv's as you like as long as you dont use the them to watch live tv
 
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lude1962 said:
to clear something up...from th tv licence site
To state the BBC‟s policy with respect t
o
those places, occupied as residential
accommodation
and
non
-
residential
premises
, whose occupier has declared
that there is no television
receiving equipment
being used at the address
to
receive live broadcasts
(known as making a No Licence Needed claim

the small print being
being used at the address to receive live broadcasts
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This applies to a person who has declared and the visit to the address from the licensing enforcement officer who then confirms there is no license required.
 
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