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AMD tapes out Zen & Arctic

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Advanced Micro Devices said on Thursday that it had taped out its first products, which will be made using a FinFET process technology. While AMD does not reveal which products it had taped out, it is highly-likely that one of them is a highly-anticipated microprocessor based on “Zen” micro-architecture.

“We have actually just taped-out our first couple of FinFET designs,” said Lisa Su, chief executive officer of Advanced Micro Devices, during the company’s earnings conference call with investors and financial analysts.

Ms. Su did not elaborate which of the future designs the company had taped out and when exactly this happened. Nonetheless, two tape-outs mean that the company has managed to successfully design its first products with FinFET transistors.

Tape-out is the final stage of the design cycle of an integrated circuit, the point at which the artwork of the IC is sent to a maker of photomasks. Once the set of photolithographic masks is ready and verified, it is sent to a contract manufacturer of the chip, which produces the first working samples of the chip. It may take up to several weeks to prepare a mask-set. Production cycle of a complex FinFET processor is around 90 days from wafer start to chip delivery. As a result, if AMD taped out its first FinFET chips in June, then the company will get the first samples of its products in September.

Mass production of chips nowadays starts between nine and twelve months after the initial tape-out. Therefore, if AMD managed to tape-out its chips last months, then it is on-track to start their high-volume production next June or a bit earlier and release its first products made using a FinFET process technology in late Q3 or early Q4 2016.

OK so they didn't say explicitly which products but what else could it be. ;)

Really curious to see if they are just using the bog-standard Low Power Plus process or if they have come up with a custom variant like they did on previous nodes, fine-tuning to their exact requirements. Or even if they went back to TSMC.
 
What's this, Trying to get people to forget AMD's recent efforts by focusing on what's ahead? Aren't you tired of it always being what's coming next when each attempt fails to meet expectations?
Sorry but I can't get excited in anticipation of what's nothing more than yet another promise there's no guarantee they'll deliver on.
After all wasn't Fiji the big one that was meant to be the game changer putting AMD back at the top?
 
What's this, Trying to get people to forget AMD's recent efforts by focusing on what's ahead? Aren't you tired of it always being what's coming next when each attempt fails to meet expectations?
Sorry but I can't get excited in anticipation of what's nothing more than yet another promise there's no guarantee they'll deliver on.
After all wasn't Fiji the big one that was meant to be the game changer putting AMD back at the top?

*plonk*
 
To be fair AMD are well positioned to exploit sub 28nm for GPUs - Fury X on 16nm FF+ with 8GB VRAM would have been a 4K beast without any other changes.
 

Feeling ok this morning, champ? This is a computer forum, if you aren't interested in tech, you're in the wrong place.

Anyhoo... Back on topic. I don't think AMD can win with Zen, unless its a barnstormer like A64. Can they pull it off? They did before, but the market has shrunk in value (relatively) and Intel is so much more pervasive. AMD can't afford to battle it out with Intel's salvaged parts and Atoms, which has recently been the case. More so now that Intel is flooding the market with essentially free CPUs. Moving back to fat cores with Zen is where they should have been looking 5 years ago. If Zen fails, I expect it to be the last major AMD x86 CPU architecture
 
If they can somehow make an interposer big enough to fit seriously beefy chips on it + HBM, that would shake things up quite a bit. I think server/HPC applications will be where they're looking, if the foundries stop dropping the ball they can combine various bits of IP into some nice offerings that will at least enable them to carve out some niches.
 
Feeling ok this morning, champ? This is a computer forum, if you aren't interested in tech, you're in the wrong place.

Anyhoo... Back on topic. I don't think AMD can win with Zen, unless its a barnstormer like A64. Can they pull it off? They did before, but the market has shrunk in value (relatively) and Intel is so much more pervasive. AMD can't afford to battle it out with Intel's salvaged parts and Atoms, which has recently been the case. More so now that Intel is flooding the market with essentially free CPUs. Moving back to fat cores with Zen is where they should have been looking 5 years ago. If Zen fails, I expect it to be the last major AMD x86 CPU architecture

Morning? Already? Oh well.
You're quite right it is a computer forum hence why I gave my opinion, included questions and hoped for more than a *plonk* in response.
After all forums are for discussions.
 
Feeling ok this morning, champ? This is a computer forum, if you aren't interested in tech, you're in the wrong place.

Anyhoo... Back on topic. I don't think AMD can win with Zen, unless its a barnstormer like A64. Can they pull it off? They did before, but the market has shrunk in value (relatively) and Intel is so much more pervasive. AMD can't afford to battle it out with Intel's salvaged parts and Atoms, which has recently been the case. More so now that Intel is flooding the market with essentially free CPUs. Moving back to fat cores with Zen is where they should have been looking 5 years ago. If Zen fails, I expect it to be the last major AMD x86 CPU architecture

In the consumer market though - have you noticed the non-APU version is launching first?

The traditional server market is still very profitable and AMD is launching products into that market first.

Even Intel is offsetting its reductions in consumer sales with server market sales and a few percent swing for AMD would be big for them.
 
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