BBC licence fee could be means tested everyone pays regardless of whether or not they own a telev

Why does anything about the BBC attract mental freemen of the land conspiracy theories like nothing else?

Not from me, they're loonies and give terrible advice.

Can't remember his name exactly, but it was something like JesusOfKayaking, he was seriously against the BBC licence fee scam, he posted loads of videos on YouTube as a result of the threatening letters ... what did the BBC do .... found out his address and sent the Police and Capita round to his house ... as a thank you. All caught on CCTV and posted on YouTube!
 
Do people here genuinely think "I cancelled my TV license, unplugged my aerial and just watch all the BBC shows on iPlayer" is in any way sustainable :confused:?

The shows don't just make themselves.
 
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Hmmm. So you think the people that are watching Ceebeebies are the same people that download the app.

That app was installed by 30 somethings to placate their kids.

When I talk about kids not watching TV, I am talking about the 7+ year olds who are too busy with Minecraft etc. to even consider turning the TV on.

Long term, TV is irrelevant. Those kids playing Minecraft are going to think you guys are mad when you tell them they have to pay for the "institution" that is the BBC.

They will think you are off your rocker when you say to them it is a public service that needs to be preserved.

You guys are dinosaurs and just don't know it.

The Minecraft generation don't give a fig about the BBC.
 
Do people here genuinely think "I cancelled my TV license, unplugged my aerial and just watch all the BBC shows on iPlayer" is in any way sustainable :confused:?

The shows don't just make themselves.

I don't even do that, I also don't listen to BBC radio programs or visit BBC websites.

Why should I pay?
 
I don't even do that, I also don't listen to BBC radio programs or visit BBC websites.

Why should I pay?

Well in your case you shouldn't, but this thread is filled with people who are claiming outrage at the possibility that they may be asked to pay to watch the shows they currently watch for free because the law hasn't caught up with the formats yet.

I also don't believe anyone who claims that there is nothing that the BBC offers them as a viewer/reader/listener.
 
Do people here genuinely think "I cancelled my TV license, unplugged my aerial and just watch all the BBC shows on iPlayer" is in any way sustainable :confused:?

The shows don't just make themselves.

This argument is a bit like the games piracy argument the big publisher love to make. We lost 10 bajillion pounds because millions of people pirated our game.

I bet a lot of the people who only watch on iPlayer would rather go without the BBC rather than pay £145 for it.
 
This argument is a bit like the games piracy argument the big publisher love to make. We lost 10 bajillion pounds because millions of people pirated our game.

I bet a lot of the people who only watch on iPlayer would rather go without the BBC rather than pay £145 for it.

Which they are more than entitled to do. But if you don't think it would hit output then you're deluded.
 
The BBC outsources contracts to several companies to post *shill* posts on forums to try to counteract the negative press they get from basically blackmailing the public over the license fee and the sex abuse cases.

Go and look at the Digital Spy forum, they're all over it 24/7! It can get quite funny when they forget which account they're logged into and respond to a post using the wrong login. :D

Really, any proof of that or is it one of those things that you just know because, well they don't agree with you?
 
I'm a bit tired. When you say hit output, what exactly do you mean?

Affect the quality/quantity of programmes or radio. The organisation has already been hit pretty hard and achieves efficiencies in line with well performing private sector companies.

Content costs money to produce, less money in means less content out. I imagine a lot of people will be totally cool with that until the show they watch falls victim.
 
Affect the quality/quantity of programmes or radio. The organisation has already been hit pretty hard and achieves efficiencies in line with well performing private sector companies.

Ah right. Well to be honest I don't care. I have zero love for the BBC. In fact I would say it was an enemy to my cause (Scottish Independence).

If it went bankrupt tomorrow and was replaced with a test card I would crack a beer open and toast it's demise.
 
I blame the parents...

My nephew is 10 and a fat ****

That's now .....his parents are aware of TV broadcasting

Are you suggesting TV is better for your health than video games...

Out of touch with who? Certainly not the generation that has no interest in the BBC.
 
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Stop bashing the freeman movement, they are the ones standing up for YOUR rights. Secondly they are not conspiracy theorists so don't get them mixed up with the likes of David Icke and Alex Jones. Lastly, wouldn't you consider what you call "normal people" who bend over and take it up the ******* by government and corporations, to be the mental ones?

No, the "freemen movement" is usually a bunch of idiots who know a few snippets of the law out of context and can't understand that certain words have specific meanings depending on context, or that certain practices were implemented because it made it easier for record keeping (for example the "all caps" thing on certain official documents doesn't mean you have two identities, it means that it was easier to read capitalised records when they had to be standardised).
 
Really, any proof of that or is it one of those things that you just know because, well they don't agree with you?

Yeah there was proof via Freedom of Information linking the BBC to a northern contract of *shill* accounts to try to down play any negative BBC posts on various forums.
 
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You don't have to, presumably you don't have a TV license?

But we all pay for things we don't use, have no interest in or don't want - it's part of having a decent society with a wide range of services and facilities. I don't have any kids, but as with everyone else I technically pay towards schools, for example.

Yes but we're talking TV here, not an essential like schools.
 
Yeah there was proof via Freedom of Information linking the BBC to a northern contract of *shill* accounts to try to down play any negative BBC posts on various forums.

You got a link to that, or was the "shill account" contract in relation to say "social media" - which would cover someone whose job involved for example posting to an official face book page, updating twitter and appearing on forums with a big "Official rep" or similar badge :)

I ask as I remember seeing someone taking a job advert that mentioned social media as a sign that the BBC had large numbers of people posting undercover on forums (It was either a BBC advert, or a TVL advert for a CS job that included social meida), as opposed to it being a fairly standard part of the job description for a lot of customer service and PR bods now as they're the ones who tend to run official facebook pages etc, in addition to the more traditional duties they used to have such as answering the phone or letters, then they added answering emails when email became common. Now they tend to use the term social media as that's easier than saying "Facebook, Twitter, Google Plus, Myspace, Friendster, myFriendface".
 
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