water cooling noob spec

noobftw · 20 Jul 2015 at 17:37

can someone spec me up a water cooling kit, i was going to initially get a corsair h110i gt but i really don't want to put up with the noise, ill be coming from a be quiet dark rock pro 3, 1 question i do have is that how much noisier will a custom water loop be than my current cooler, really would like quietness with awesome cooling

for now all i would like is to get my i7 4790k water cooled with the option to water cool my gpu down the line, i have a enthoo luxe case so i hope that i can fit something real nice in their.

price is negotiable on quality - i would prefer something that's high end and silent and very efficient, thanks in advance

MrMD · 20 Jul 2015 at 18:41

noobftw said:
can someone spec me up a water cooling kit, i was going to initially get a corsair h110i gt but i really don't want to put up with the noise, ill be coming from a be quiet dark rock pro 3, 1 question i do have is that how much noisier will a custom water loop be than my current cooler, really would like quietness with awesome cooling for now all i would like is to get my i7 4790k water cooled with the option to water cool my gpu down the line, i have a enthoo luxe case so i hope that i can fit something real nice in their.

price is negotiable on quality - i would prefer something that's high end and silent and very efficient, thanks in advance

Quietness is determined by what fans you choose to run,as well as how much rad space you have.Undoubtly a good WC build will be substantially quieter than your Dark rock and air cooled GPU.

YOUR BASKET
1 x EK Water Blocks EK-D5 Vario X-RES 100 (incl. pump) £105.95
1 x EK Water Blocks EK-Supremacy MX - Acetal £34.99
1 x XSPC EX240 120mm Radiator - Black £34.99
1 x Monsoon 16/11mm (ID 7/16 OD 5/8) Free Center Compression Fitting Six Pack - Matte Black £24.95
1 x Mayhems X1 Clear Premixed Watercooling Fluid 1L £7.99
1 x Primochill Primoflex Advanced Tubing 16/11 - Clear £5.99
Total : £224.46 (includes shipping : £8.00 Ex.VAT).

Heres a quick spec,all parts of good quality and would be plenty to get you started with a CPU loop,down the line to add a GPU you would want a 2nd 240mm/280mm rad 4 more fittings and a GPU block

Edit:Buy spending more you could get a slightly better rad,a slightly better CPU block ect.But not massive improvements especially if your budget conscious .Plus you would need some fans

noobftw · 20 Jul 2015 at 20:21

is that water pump silent as can be expected or is their better, thanks for the help bud, also is their any accessories i should purchase so i don't end up pulling my hair out when i need something i don't have lol

MrMD · 20 Jul 2015 at 20:55

noobftw said:
is that water pump silent as can be expected or is their better, thanks for the help bud, also is their any accessories i should purchase so i don't end up pulling my hair out when i need something i don't have lol

Yep the D5 vario is the best/quietest pump to go for.

For accessories,Hose cutters can be convenient,but any good scissors will do honestly,same goes for a PSU jumper,again a paper clip can do the same job for free.Its always advisiable to get more tubing than you think you need,so for a CPU only loop,make sure you get 2m+ worth.

You would probily want to set up a drain port aswell,so its easy to drain your system without fluid getting everywhere.You may also want to get a temp sensor to monitor your water temp.

What you want to do is figure out how/where you will mount your rads and pump/res and then take it from there,and figure out if you need/want drain ports ect and where they would be located.

As long as your planning is good ahead of time,you shouldnt run into any major issues,and the process will just generally be easier.

Trunkey · 21 Jul 2015 at 00:14

That spec'd rad doesn't leave any room for addition of GPU later as suggested in the op.
I don't doubt its quality but later on on that's only going to deal with the gpu.
I suggest over radding the loop at this time to allow for the CPU GPU cooling requirements down the line.
The spec of that some one else can advise on cause I doubt you will think 4 x 120 is enough space!
But then most of you didn't use fish pond pumps and car heater matrix's as part of your pc water loop with elbows and T's from your local Plumbers Merchant and jubilee clips from Halfords

MrMD · 21 Jul 2015 at 00:20

Trunkey said:
That spec'd rad doesn't leave any room for addition of GPU later as suggested in the op.
I don't doubt its quality but later on on that's only going to deal with the gpu.
I suggest over radding the loop at this time to allow for the CPU GPU cooling requirements down the line.
The spec of that some one else can advise on cause I doubt you will think 4 x 120 is enough space!
But then most of you didn't use fish pond pumps and car heater matrix's as part of your pc water loop with elbows and T's from your local Plumbers Merchant and jubilee clips from Halfords

Tbf,OP was asking about just a CPU loop for now.And his case can only support 240/280mm rads,so sadly couldnt fit a 360/480mm(Which ofcourse would be preferable from a cost/expandability stand point

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Trunkey · 21 Jul 2015 at 00:36

MrMD said:
Tbf,OP was asking about just a CPU loop for now.And his case can only support 240/280mm rads,so sadly couldnt fit a 360/480mm(Which ofcourse would be preferable from a cost/expandability stand point )

So why not give it to him straight and tell him his case can't do what he wants to do down the line? like was asked in the post??
"for now all i would like is to get my i7 4790k water cooled with the option to water cool my gpu down the line"
Why not answer the question instead of giving false hope (Tbf?

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MrMD · 21 Jul 2015 at 00:40

Trunkey said:
So why not give it to him straight and tell him his case can't do what he wants to do down the line? like was asked in the post??
"for now all i would like is to get my i7 4790k water cooled with the option to water cool my gpu down the line"
Why not answer the question instead of giving false hope Tbf?

His case can accommodate multiple 240/280m rads according to the spec sheet im lookin at. And i said in my intial post when he added a gpu down the line he would have to get a second radiator :confused:

Trunkey · 21 Jul 2015 at 00:49

So now i'm confused and no doubt he is too!
Your first post looked good, I said more rad space was a good idea.
You post appeared to say that might be difficult.
I questioned need for different case.
Now you say his (or her) case can take multiple rads.
We both agree get more rad space to allow for future upgrade.
Just add an extra rad to initial post....
Your happy, I'm delirious and op is thrilled with supper water cooled set up!!

Trunkey · 21 Jul 2015 at 00:51

And yes I accept after reading your initial post for the fourth time you did say a second rad would be required.

MrMD · 21 Jul 2015 at 00:52

Trunkey said:
So now i'm confused and no doubt he is too!
Your first post looked good, I said more rad space was a good idea.
You post appeared to say that might be difficult.
I questioned need for different case.
Now you say his (or her) case can take multiple rads.
We both agree get more rad space to allow for future upgrade.
Just add an extra rad to initial post....
Your happy, I'm delirious and op is thrilled with supper water cooled set up!!

lolz

I think when i said it can only support 240/280mm rads you took that to mean it can only support a single 240/280mm rad.I meant thats the largest single rad it can accommodate

But yea more space is never a bad idea

Trunkey · 21 Jul 2015 at 00:58

MrMD said:
lolz

I think when i said it can only support 240/280mm rads you took that to mean it can only support a single 240/280mm rad.I meant thats the largest single rad it can accommodate

But yea more space is never a bad idea

Yes I did!

Dangers of posting after to many G&T's don't you know!

Note to self go and do case research.....

noobftw · 21 Jul 2015 at 11:11

I'm guessing if I get rid of the 3.5 tray section then I can fit in a max 360 rad, would this be more advisable knowing that I want to add my gpu to the loop at a later date or would I still need a separate rad for the gpu no matter what

actually looking at my case im pretty sure i could fit a 360 push pull config in at the top while only sacrificing a dvd drive while keeping for 3.5 bay

actually looking at the overclockers uk website specs -

Liquid Cooling:
- Front Up to 240
- Top Up to 360/420
- Rear 120/140
- Bottom Up to 240/140

with that in mind, what would be the best parts to purchase knowing that i would be extending the loop to the gpu down the line

malcolm · 21 Jul 2015 at 17:27

If you want quiet I would forget about push/pull. Why double up the fans for a very small benefit?

I could only get 2 240mm rads in my case, and I'm using a D5 on a bay-res, but my 4970k stays super cool and the fan noise is very acceptable to my ears.

noobftw · 21 Jul 2015 at 17:31

How about this

so many items are out of stock on ocuk when it comes to water cooling

bigger rad = running fans at lower settings while maintaining good temps ?

i also need to get a quick disconnect

MrMD · 21 Jul 2015 at 17:40

noobftw said:
I'm guessing if I get rid of the 3.5 tray section then I can fit in a max 360 rad, would this be more advisable knowing that I want to add my gpu to the loop at a later date or would I still need a separate rad for the gpu no matter what

actually looking at my case im pretty sure i could fit a 360 push pull config in at the top while only sacrificing a dvd drive while keeping for 3.5 bay

actually looking at the overclockers uk website specs -

Liquid Cooling:
- Front Up to 240
- Top Up to 360/420
- Rear 120/140
- Bottom Up to 240/140

with that in mind, what would be the best parts to purchase knowing that i would be extending the loop to the gpu down the line

lol your right,The spec sheet i was looking was on a different site,and is clearly listed wrong

If your still only putting the put under water for now i would get a single 360mm rad.And get a 2nd 240mm one when you add the GPU.

No real need to spend the extra money on extra rad space/fittings/fans until you add the card to the loop IMO.

MrMD · 21 Jul 2015 at 17:43

noobftw said:
How about this so many items are out of stock on ocuk when it comes to water cooling

bigger rad = running fans at lower settings while maintaining good temps ?

i also need to get a quick disconnect

Yup that part list would be fine,maybe switch the F5 varders to the F3/F4 models.The F5's have a 40-100% duty cycle,so at minimum speed they are gonna be around 1200rpm,which will not be 'silent'

Edit: Is the quick dissconect for draining,if so you will need a male and a female QD.

You could just get a Q fitting,a drain valve and a male to male like these,aswell as 2 stop fittings

YOUR BASKET
1 x Bitspower Rotary Fitting "Q" - 360 Degree Water Cooling Accessory Shining Silver £7.57
1 x Aqua Computer Ball Valve Female Thread G 1/4 without Fittings £5.99
1 x XSPC G1/4" 5mm Male to Male Fitting (Black Chrome) £1.79
Total : £18.32 (includes shipping : £2.48 Ex.VAT).

Heres a link to how it looks configured. http://postimg.org/image/bfpcq45rb/ the open port on the bottom actually has a temp sensor in it now its been fitted,or just use a regular stop fitting.

If you place this in the lowest part of your loop,you just unplug the stop fitting on the drain,then turn the valve and you can easily drain your loop.

noobftw · 21 Jul 2015 at 18:53

cheers guys, very helpful

noobftw · 23 Jul 2015 at 16:24

Back again

right things have changed now as i delided my cpu and temps dropped dramatically so i am not as much in a rush to get the cpu cooled now, im more bothered about getting my gtx 980ti reference card on a water block as it's so noisy compared to everything else, just wondering if you guys can spec me up a list again with silence being the key factor and i really don't know what size rad would be best dual/single/240/360 :/