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EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti Kingpin Edition Launched
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They should rename this card to "The KingBin Edition".
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You know theG1 is binned too? It may not ne binned for asic but gigabyte even say onther site they bin thw silicon
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I'm not sure I agree with adding an extra level of buyers choice here. Especially when it will be limited to what stock and the state of silicon allows.
Colour me on the fence. This is aimed at the overclocking enthusiast and not gaming target market so we will have to see, stock permitting I suppose. I doubt there will be much to speak of.
Colour me on the fence. This is aimed at the overclocking enthusiast and not gaming target market so we will have to see, stock permitting I suppose. I doubt there will be much to speak of.
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I'm reading the opposite, you can still get >72% on others (as the are far more GPU's than Kingpin boards to put them on), it's just they have found a way to gouge Kingpin buyers even more because now they have different grades of Kingpin. So they can now use chips in the entry Kingpins that wouldn't have previously binned high enough to go in a Kingpin board, and they can also charge the moon for the premium Kingpins which use the chips that would have previously been standard in a Kingpin.
It's basically just smoke and mirrors to make people pay more for a Kingpin and think they are getting something extra for it, which is kind of ironic as the Kingpin was designed as a way to make people pay more for a Classified and think they were getting something extra for it in the first place lol.
ASIC means next to nothing anyway. EVGA look to be aiming at professional overclockers who need the absolute best regardless and hodors who are gullible and don't know better. One extreme and the other, nobody in-between.
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Yeah but they don't (as yet) put a price tag on the further asic increments like we can see above. If there was a G1, G1.1, G1.2 etc etc with different stages of binned chips I would also look elsewhere.
So now not only do we have GPU tiers we also have ASIC tiers. Lol the sooner NV get some serious competition the better.
I don't agree with what EVGA are doing but it does give the review sites the chance to test ASIC % to see if it really does make a difference.
I was starting to believe that ASIC level did not mean anything but EVGAs pricing guide is suggesting different.
The other interesting thing is if a low ASIC is good for LN2 why are there no Kingpin cards that reflect this ?
To be fair, all this really demonstrates is that EVGA know how to squeeze more money out of people who believe it makes a difference...
And for that reason EVGA, I'm out.
Inno3D or MSI hybrid for me, whichever comes first (and doesn't screw us over AISC).
The point I am trying to make is there are no cards offered with an ASIC below 60% for example. If a low ASIC is supposed to be good for LN2 where is it.
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ASIC means more with Maxwell than it has done in the past due to how efficient it is. But Kaap has a point as although lower ASIC is considered better for freezing due to the higher leakage and response to higher voltages, this link has never been proven with any professional testing methodology. So we've found a lot of end users looking for higher ASIC cards more so than ever due to wanting higher clocks on air. These types of things stopped bothering me a while ago. It's not something directly in your control (till now evidently with a premium). This product is aimed at an extreme market and I can tell you even within that target audience there will be people turning their noses up at this idea.
Furthermore people should listen to Vince when he comments on the lack of response on ambient cooling. Having a higher ASIC won't really assist you - most cards will topple out at 1550 core regardless. They need the cold. The 'conventional' Classified, Strix or even the HOF are likely more up most peoples ally here.
Furthermore people should listen to Vince when he comments on the lack of response on ambient cooling. Having a higher ASIC won't really assist you - most cards will topple out at 1550 core regardless. They need the cold. The 'conventional' Classified, Strix or even the HOF are likely more up most peoples ally here.
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LOL
Awesome marketing...
I am not sure what they were thinking. Will this now drip over to the second hand market? LOL
"Pay more for my GTX Meh, it has a high ASIC!!!!"
MMmmmm
Just so you know mine is 69 and I am not complaining about how it does or does not overclock.
So it's all a bit moot.
Except those paying a premium.
Awesome marketing...
I am not sure what they were thinking. Will this now drip over to the second hand market? LOL
"Pay more for my GTX Meh, it has a high ASIC!!!!"
MMmmmm
Just so you know mine is 69 and I am not complaining about how it does or does not overclock.
So it's all a bit moot.
Except those paying a premium.