Tell me about 120ds

You might as well see how well the Z4 fares, you might hate the job and change again and you'd kick yourself for selling a car you like.
 
According to my 320d (2005) I get 50+ on the motorway so I don't see why you couldn't 50 out of 1 series?

I used to get 60 combined in my 320d and I'm very heavy on the accelerator so totally agree that it's doable. Mine was a 2011 model though so had the newer engine which helps explain some of the difference between our values.
 
I used to get 60 combined in my 320d and I'm very heavy on the accelerator

No you didn't - I can only assume you've got the wrong definition of combined. Heck even the ridiculous NEDC figures didn't suggest you could get 60mpg combined out of an M47 engined E90!

60 combined would require well over 70mpg on long easy cruises to offset the town work!?
 
I could only get about 48MPG out of a 116d so I don't see how someone can get 60 in a 320d.

I get 40-45 out of my Focus so it's not a driving style thing...
 
[TW]Fox;28364833 said:
No you didn't - I can only assume you've got the wrong definition of combined. Heck even the ridiculous NEDC figures didn't suggest you could get 60mpg combined out of an M47 engined E90!

60 combined would require well over 70mpg on long easy cruises to offset the town work!?

Wrong engine...n47

Official stats are 68.9
 
We are talking about 2005-2007 x20d's in this thread.

What are you talking about?

The only E90 that ever had a combined of 68 was the specific 320d ED company car tax dodge model, which nobody in this thread is talking about, it was much newer for a start. A regular E90 2005 320d had a combined of just 49mpg, for example.
 
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[TW]Fox;28364973 said:
We are talking about 2005-2007 x20d's in this thread.

What are you talking about?

The only E90 that ever had a combined of 68 was the specific 320d ED company car tax dodge model, which nobody in this thread is talking about, it was much newer for a start.

Op is talking about an 07 onwards model. He specifically states he wouldn't want something older than his z4 which is 07
 
I used to get 60 combined in my 320d and I'm very heavy on the accelerator so totally agree that it's doable. Mine was a 2011 model though so had the newer engine which helps explain some of the difference between our values.

Even so the stats from the ED models are good but some way off their quoted values. I have a late 2010 320d EfficientDynamics and my average is 55mpg. Pretty much every journey I do is a long trip which is mostly motorway.

Best I've ever done is 825 miles out of the 61 litre tank - and that was pushing it with the trip computer saying --- miles remaining for the last 10 or so. That comes out to 61mpg and that was doing long drives pretty much entirely motorway and driving at 70 the whole way with only myself in the car. Don't see how it's possible to get much more than that unless you trundle along at 60.
 
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Some 2007 1 Series have the N47, some have the M47.

But even the N57 120d was not 68mpg combined - it is 58mpg, and under simulated test conditions (Which given that its a lighter car than a 320d ED demonstrates quite how much tweaking the ED underwent!)

I have driven loads of 118d, 120d, 318d and 320d and not a single one of them has ever properly averaged more than about 55-58mpg over a long journey.

A combined of 60 is just fantasy stuff.
 
Even so the stats from the ED models are good but some way off their quoted values. I have a late 2010 320d EfficientDynamics and my average is 55mpg. Pretty much every journey I do is a long trip which is mostly motorway.

Best I've ever done is 825 miles out of the 61 litre tank. That comes out to 61mpg and that was doing long drives pretty much entirely motorway and driving at 70 the whole way with only myself in the car. Don't see how it's possible to get much more than that unless you trundle along at 60.

I wouldn't say doing 60 is trundling however I would happily have taken a photo of the computer to show my average. When I bought the car it was on 52.3 and when I sold it 60.1. I only reset the computer when I bought it.
However my point still stands, a newish well maintained 120d should have no problem getting over 50.
 
[TW]Fox;28364833 said:
No you didn't - I can only assume you've got the wrong definition of combined. Heck even the ridiculous NEDC figures didn't suggest you could get 60mpg combined out of an M47 engined E90!

60 combined would require well over 70mpg on long easy cruises to offset the town work!?
Tbf i use to get 60mpg average out of my 320d (f30 efficientdynamics), but my typical route lends itself to better mpg. I get 38-40mpg on the same route from an mx5 for example.
 
[TW]Fox;28365032 said:
Some 2007 1 Series have the N47, some have the M47.

But even the N57 120d was not 68mpg combined - it is 58mpg, and under simulated test conditions (Which given that its a lighter car than a 320d ED demonstrates quite how much tweaking the ED underwent!)

I have driven loads of 118d, 120d, 318d and 320d and not a single one of them has ever properly averaged more than about 55-58mpg over a long journey.

A combined of 60 is just fantasy stuff.

So you were wrong before then?

Also...from our very own forums

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?p=18244866
 
No, you are STILL talking about one very specific model - the 320d ED. It has a combined figure of 10mpg *MORE* than even the later E87 120d's. It is not at all relevant to the cars the OP is considering. Thats my point.

The 120d won't do what a 320d ED does - nothing else will, not even a regular 320d SE. It was a particularly unique model.
 
I used to get 60 combined in my 320d and I'm very heavy on the accelerator so totally agree that it's doable. Mine was a 2011 model though so had the newer engine which helps explain some of the difference between our values.

Then from the link you just posted?
Bit of a threadomancy here but i've got one of these currently and struggle to get above 48.7mpg


I'm confused?
 
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Then from the link you just posted?



I'm confused?

Clutch and flywheel had gone. Hence major issues. If you search more of my posts you'll notice I mention it :)
 
I got 48mpg average out of a tank (over 15000 miles) in my E87 123d.

As always comes down to driving style and type of road on your commute but the same sort of figures out of a 120d should be achievable.

That being said I'd agree with the consensus here and keep the Z. Potential chain / tensioner issues aside the 120d is a great car but....
 
I get 55-59mpg almost every week on my commute in my 2013 320D.

It's long dual carrangeway journeys of an hour each way and my average speed is usually around the 50mph mark after the traffic jams coming through Stoke!
 
I averaged 60.5 MPG to Manchester (102 miles) last Wednesday through rush hour motorway traffic in my petrol 118i. A 120d would easily get over 60.
 
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