Paedophile Sex Ring in Norwich broken

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Because you know the only nonces are the ethnic minorities / Islam / Muslims / Indians right?

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A woman from Norwich has been convicted of playing a leading role in raping and sexually abusing pre-teen children and setting them up as "sexual playthings" for other adults.

Marie Black, 34, was accused of forcing the children to have sex with one another and the court also heard adults played card games to decide who would be abused next.

Norwich Crown Court heard the sexual assaults sometimes involved children's toys such as Barbie Dolls and that the abuse became so routine her victims considered it to be normal behaviour.

Black was found guilty of 23 offences including rape, conspiracy to rape, and inciting a child to engage in sexual activity.

Two men were also convicted for their part in the abuse, said to have taken place over 10 years at locations in Norwich and London.

Michael Rogers, 53, was found guilty of 14 offences including cruelty, rape and inciting a child to engage in sexual activity. Jason Adams, 43, also from Norwich, was found guilty of 13 similar offences.

Following the verdicts Detective Chief Inspector Pete Hornby said the case provided a "sickening glimpse into sexual abuse on a large scale".

"In their tender years, these children were subjected to sexual abuse beyond most people's imagination by adults they believed were telling the truth," he said.

"It is the most harrowing case I have dealt with in 23 years of policing. Marie Black has been found to be at the centre of this abuse and incited others to commit abuse against them. She thought they would never speak out."

During the trial prosecuting QC Angela Rafferty told the court: "Many of the defendants have become good at appearing normal and respectable.

"This is what you would have to do in order to be child abusers to the extent alleged here."

Black, Adams and Rogers were remanded in custody while Stadler was released on conditional bail until sentencing on 28 September.

Six other people charged with offences were found not guilty by the jury, including: Anthony Stadler, 64, Kathleen Adams, 85, Nicky Collins, 37, Andrew Collins, 53, Judy Fuller, 32, and Denise Barnes, 44.
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Paedophiles / nonces / whatever you want to call them come from all walks of life. What worries me is the clear cover up by people / authorities that allows them to get away with these activities for so long. A good friend of mine is a social worker for endangered children and whilst she can't directly talk about the cases at her work she sometimes comes home a gibbering wreck because of the things she has to deal with. It's utterly tragic that innocent children get subjected to abuse like this and I wish you could just castrate scum that commit such disgusting and vile acts :(
 
Child abuse occurs across all ethnic groups, this we know, but the WHO is quite clear it is not occurring at the same rate across all groups.

I note you immediately brought up the ethic angle but didn't mention the gender angle.

So basically you've taken an awful situation and pushed it forward for a personal agenda. That kind of makes you a bit of a **** in my opinion and no better than those you are attempting berate here. That, also in my opinion, is called hypocrisy and could easily be seen as an own goal.
 
Xordium said:
Child abuse occurs across all ethnic groups, this we know, but the WHO is quite clear it is not occurring at the same rate across all groups.

I note you immediately brought up the ethic angle but didn't mention the gender angle.

So basically you've taken an awful situation and pushed it forward for a personal agenda. That kind of makes you a bit of a **** in my opinion and no better than those you are attempting berate here. That, also in my opinion, is called hypocrisy and could easily be seen as an own goal.
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Why did you bold the names of the many people at the bottom found not guilty?
The article is strange, three conviced, hardly the breaking of a ring. yet it mentions a fourth person released on bail until a sentencing.
Incomplete sky news article perhaps, they do change their mind frequently.

A female ringleader. That is reasonably rare. Seems to be violence based also, forcing children to rape one another, not partaking in the act herself.

Truely horrid, glad people like these are conviced and removed from society.
 
Paedos paedo, paedos investigated and charged, paedos get sent to prison for a long time. As awful as their crimes are, that is the way the system is supposed to work. So what's the problem?

What's different in the Rotherham, Rochdale, Oxford, etc situations is firstly how one ethnic group of paedos deliberately targeted a specific ethnic group of victims and how the establishment - social workers, police covered it up and allowed it to continue so as not to appear racist.

@OP got any evidence that this particular case was covered up by the authorities?
 
the_chicco said:
Right so its ok for other people to bring it up in other threads clearly blaming Islam / culture / whatever but when the tables are turned a different matter hey?
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no one has said that child abuse only occurs in those communities.

It's disingenuous to present the committing of abuse in group as a mitigation for the examination of abuse in another group.

Now correct me if I am wrong but isn't that fear to challenge exactly what lead to a number of girls being woefully failed by child services, social services and the police force?

the_chicco said:
Right. I take it you are one of the OCUK faithful racist bigots then?
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Well if you feel that way then fair enough but maybe before you condemn and brand me you would do me the courtesy of reading the recent threads and actually find out my stance.

What you have done there, and unfairly in my opinion, is brand me without and examination of what my beliefs are. If you are incapable of using a simple search to find that out then maybe you could either ask for my opinion or maybe not release your vitriolic until you have established fact?

the_chicco said:
And what data do you have to back this claim about the rates of which it is occurring and who commits them? Please show me.
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http://www.who.int/violence_injury_prevention/violence/world_report/en/FullWRVH.pdf

http://www.who.int/violence_injury_prevention/violence/global_campaign/en/chap3.pdf

Oh and:

Freakbro said:
Err, No, no he's not....you could hardly be farther from the truth
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Thank you.

Usually I find I am shot down by both sides in the debate. That is when I know I am on the right track!


And the_chicco - Why exactly did you not point out the gender angle you didn't answer my query there. Rather telling don't you think?
 
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I think the genders in this case are quite important. Women are still generally seen as non-abusers in child abuse cases and, sometimes, are cast as victims who were under the influence of the "evil men"
 
Richie said:
I think the genders in this case are quite important. Women are still generally seen as non-abusers in child abuse cases and, sometimes, are cast as victims who were under the influence of the "evil men"
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Which was my point. Why was this not mentioned in the OP. It just makes the OP come across with a protectionist agenda which exactly how we ended up with the Rochdale situation.

Women are the predominate abusers of children because they are the predominate caregivers and therefore the predominate instigators and complicit instigators of neglect and emotional abuse. Both categories outweighing sexual and physical abuse.

We've had this discussion in SC recently. We all see neglect and emotional abuse every week and yet we all ignore - largely because even though we find it wrong and distasteful we have no power to actually report it or prevent it actively. How we attack that abuse is at a societal, educational and policy level. Unnecessarily specifically targeting or protecting any specific group is what gives said groups the powers to continue and facilitate their patterns of abuse.
 
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