Paedophile Sex Ring in Norwich broken

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Xordium said:
Women are the predominate abusers of children because they are the predominate caregivers and therefore the predominate instigators and complicit instigators of neglect and emotional abuse. Both categories outweighing sexual and physical abuse.
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The context, would that be, Outweighing in number of cases?
 
the_chicco said:
Because you know the only nonces are the ethnic minorities / Islam / Muslims / Indians right?

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Paedophiles / nonces / whatever you want to call them come from all walks of life. What worries me is the clear cover up by people / authorities that allows them to get away with these activities for so long. A good friend of mine is a social worker for endangered children and whilst she can't directly talk about the cases at her work she sometimes comes home a gibbering wreck because of the things she has to deal with. It's utterly tragic that innocent children get subjected to abuse like this and I wish you could just castrate scum that commit such disgusting and vile acts :(
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To address some points:

1.) Get off your high horse. I don't think anyone suggested that Paedophilia is unique to ethnic minorities - indeed, the problem many ethnic groups have is towards women in general - whether that be sexuality, or any other part of the spectrum of gender politics, and I actually think attitudes for ideas that they've brought from their respective countries is half the reason why there is so much tension within communities.

2.)Speaking of Gender politics, I'd be very much interested to see just how harsh a sentence. Vanessa George received a 7 year sentence for systematic abuse of a number of children under the age of five (she worked in a nursery, shockingly), while Tracy Dawber received 4. It's interesting to note that men receive much harsher, longer sentences - and while I don't approve of the crime, I do think the courts need to get their acts together, and stop seeing the women who commit crimes such as this as delicate little waifs who are being manipulated by some dark ringmaster.

3.) "What worries me is the clear cover up by people / authorities that allows them to get away with these activities for so long." - I think after Operation Yewtree and the revelations of a Westminster ring, it's a worry we all share. Questions must be asked, society must be reshaped etc. etc - unfortunately, people seemed to have forgotten what utter, utter ***** the tories are in the last election and how much they like to cover up anything that puts the Aristocracy in a bad light, and condemned the country to another five years under tory yoke.

Did you vote, Chicco?

4.) Chemical castration is in fact an option for many paedophiles, and they're tightly controlled when caught. But hey. If I'd told you five years ago that the BBC had been covering up for a hardcore paedophile with a deep and profound love for necrophilia and bestiality, and even gone so far as to put on the entertainment for his little circle of friends, you'd have called me a conspiracy nut and offered to make me a tinfoil hat. Funny that.

Xordium said:
Women are the predominate abusers of children because they are the predominate caregivers and therefore the predominate instigators and complicit instigators of neglect and emotional abuse. Both categories outweighing sexual and physical abuse.
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Source please?
 
Hitman_Leon said:
The context, would that be, Outweighing in number of cases?
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Yes.

It is a misrepresentation of the facts. Women often get overlooked in cases of child abuse. For every child that has been damaged by sexual abuse by a male member of the family or physical abuse by a male member of the family then there are scores of children that have undergone emotional abuse of neglect.

It is a prejudicial component of society that men are more risky than women. Maybe they are certain situations but not in others. For every male care giver that commits abuse we can find female care givers with factitious illness creation. For every male relative that sexually abuses we can find a female relative that has destroyed someone's confidence to the point of anorexia and suicide. And vice versa. And yet we only seem to talk about the one angle.

For what it's worth I think as we find that men increasingly become care-givers we'll see those scales shift. I personally think the patterns of abuse are shaped strongly by environmental circumstances and I think the evidence strongly supports that. When those environmental circumstances are strongly exhibited in certain groups then those groups need to take a very strong look at how they protect their power. Now it's right for the BBC to do that but it's not right for other groups?

But what do I know I am just a racist bigot. But I know you know exactly where I am coming from here.
 
eldergeek said:
Why should I do the searching? you're the one making the claims - and nothing from the daily mail or sun please. Gutter press is not valid.
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This is an internet discussion forum, not a piece of academic research. Yes there are times when evidence is needed to back up a claim, this is not one of those times as the original claim is a well understood paradigm. If you really disagree that women are the primary care-givers in UK family dynamics then it would be polite to say why you don't agree with those claims. It's a bit like if I posted about gangs driving around without their headlights on at night and killing anyone who flashes at them - sure you could play the silly 'citation needed' game, but it'd be better forum etiquette to just post the snopes link that proves I'm wrong.
 
Participant said:
Proof that Jesus exists please?
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Be careful what you ask for Participant or I will unleash the mighty fury of the kedge on you.

eldergeek said:
Why should I do the searching? you're the one making the claims - and nothing from the daily mail or sun please. Gutter press is not valid.
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What do you want citation for:

a) that neglect is the most common form of child abuse followed by emotional neglect?
b) that women are the primary caregivers?
c) or the logical continuance from that

I tell you what how about I just link the seminal study that details this;

May-Chahal, C., & Cawson, P. (2005). Measuring child maltreatment in the United Kingdom: A study of the prevalence of child abuse and neglect. Child Abuse & Neglect, 29, 969-984.

Then maybe you can learn something and stop trying to be a smartass. But I fully expect like most people on here when proven wrong you'll just magically disappear from the thread and then pop up and peddle the same old line next time the topic pops up. And I got called the bigot ... ironic.
 
ReltonBFD said:
Sad that some Muppets try to get one over . No body said it was only Pakistani/Muslims , just that they are the vast majority of modern cases .
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They aren't. They do make up a large majority of a particular type of case though and they were also pretty much allowed to continue the abuse for a while range of reasons. The majority of sex offenders in the UK are white, but that is really to be expected.
 
Hikari Kisugi said:
You do seem to be taking great delight and relish in the abuse of these children.
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Where did you get that idea from? All I am doing is calling out the hypocrites who only respond and make a big deal out of things when Asians *Muslims* are involved in peverse acts. Are you one of those people?

As for the crime being committed I think you'll find I am always disgusted by it and suggest those who are guilty face full punishment .
 
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