Everything is quite boring

Yep. I hardly visit this forum nowadays.

I think the only really interesting devices in the last couple of years have been the YotaPhone and Sharp Aquos Crystal, the former still being too expensive and latter didn't come to the UK!

All these big screen devices don't interest me.


This really, same as MRK, currently using a Z3 and loving it, nothing out there is enticing me at the min.
I think manufacturers should now concentrate more with updating the hardware, with the latest releases within a quicker time frame.
 
Of course it is, it's a mature technology. There's little need for even high end phones. And looks like a fair few years before any new technology, like proper use if flexible displays. In no gimmick devices.
 
The mobile phone world has become quite boring. Nothing significant has really come out in the last 4 years (bar finger print recognition tech).

Everything seems stagnant.

What's going on?

Real time Ray Tracing is being worked in which gives a number of graphical advantages over desktop graphics card. Its starting to look like we will get Real time Ray Tracing in mobile before desktop!
 
Games having prettier shadows isnt really the issue though is it... :confused:
Ray tracing isn't just about shadows it can be used to make augmented reality bland in and could have a big impact on that along with use in AI, line of site, Lights/global illumination, asset creation and more. It also saves memory and bandwidth two things phones struggle with.
 
Agree with the thread title. There is nothing out there that pops out and says "Spend nearly £600 on me". It's a shame, as I have been a "flagship" phone owner for near 15 years now, and I currently see little point on moving on from my Galaxy S4 despite it's dodgy screen.

On that note, anyone know of any "reputable" retailers of refurbished phones? While £600 is too much for a brand spanking current boring phone, I could probably swing around £400. I was thinking the OP2, since it's nice and cheap, but it is huge, and doesn't support 2G on my carrier, and I only get 2G at home / work.
 
S6 32GB is near enough £400.

People looking for a revolution in mobile seem a little deluded. It's pretty amazing that we have such a powerful mobile tool as is.
 
Phones have been boring and infuriating to use ever since they stopped putting physical keyboards in them.
Now everyone just seems to accept that autocorrect errors, delete-retype and generally missing the tiny on-screen keys/buttons is a way of life, now...

I dread to think what I'll do when this "antique" Desire-Z I insist on using finally gives up the ghost...!!
 
Things have hit a ceiling tech wise but phone tech will get more refined. I think manufacturers will work on battery tech as opposed to bells and whistles stuff like cameras and screens as this is the only side of mobile phone technology that hasn't really seen any advances and quick charge doesn't count.
 
Real time Ray Tracing.....

I will not buy any shares no matter how much you post about it. Graphics or even VR/AR are barely on any buyer's radar.

What mrk listed are what people are looking for. none of which Ray Tracing will help with.

literally the bottom of my g.a.f list.
 
S6 32GB is near enough £400.

People looking for a revolution in mobile seem a little deluded. It's pretty amazing that we have such a powerful mobile tool as is.

I'm not looking for amazing advances, but just a nicer, rounder experience.

If the S6 still took micro SD's, then I would have one already. 32GB just wont cut it though. My S4, just over 2 years old now, has 40GB of pictures on it. Sure, I could just back them up and delete them, but that leaves zero room for my videos and music too. 64GB is the minimum size I could go for.

I'm not really sure why they decided to take this backwards step. Oh yeah. Money. That was it. I'm half tempted to just get an S5 in protest. But I doubt I could bring myself to part with hard earned for "old" tech.
 
I will not buy any shares no matter how much you post about it. Graphics or even VR/AR are barely on any buyer's radar.

What mrk listed are what people are looking for. none of which Ray Tracing will help with.

literally the bottom of my g.a.f list.
What has shares got to do with anything? I was just trying to answers the first posters question about new upcoming technology's. As for AR it seems to be getting more popular. When I was at a horse show a month ish back AR was being used and a lot of people seemed interested. So it must be entering some buyers radar.
 
Samsung are the only Android manufacturer doing anything interesting, the rest are just using off the shelf parts and going for phablet size devices.

Qualcomm are partly responsible for their crappy SoC, but I agree most of them are boring.
 
It seems the trend right now is audiophile phones (Axon Pro and Marshall London).

I'd much rather have a major breakthrough in battery life and/or camera. Sony, stop messing around with 20+ MP sensors and just create one with 8MP! A phone with a camera the equivalent of the A7s would be a dream.
 
It seems the trend right now is audiophile phones (Axon Pro and Marshall London).

I'd much rather have a major breakthrough in battery life and/or camera. Sony, stop messing around with 20+ MP sensors and just create one with 8MP! A phone with a camera the equivalent of the A7s would be a dream.

Sony haven't really "messed around" with new sensors withhigher MP since the Z1, the Z3 just has a slightly revised lens and software advancements. Same sensor tech giving better low light performance and the like. 5.1.1 update is an example of that where the software changes have resulted in better images. Same with most other OEMs really.

The arms race does seem to be in marketing new phones with features people may not use. Most flagships have had a good DAC from day 1 so audio quality has never been an issue, especially when using app's with built in EQ engines capable of outputting music bypassing Android's own software stack.
 
It seems the trend right now is audiophile phones (Axon Pro and Marshall London).

I'd much rather have a major breakthrough in battery life and/or camera. Sony, stop messing around with 20+ MP sensors and just create one with 8MP! A phone with a camera the equivalent of the A7s would be a dream.
Sony make the sensors in nearly all high end devices and are the biggest name in the game. If the press tell the truth they have a 40% market share which is pretty crazy considering the market. The 8MP sensor in the iPhone is a Sony for example, the 20MP ones they ship in their xperias downsample to 8MP by default and nearly all the other big OEMs use their mid-range stuff right now for western markets. I imagine there's a fair limit on what you can achieve in a 3x10x10mm package or however small they are these days although improvements keep coming like OIS despite the incredible requirements that phones come with (work in -20 to +40 degrees, work in any orientation, start up inside 0.5s, do 4K recording on average storage chips, produce great results without a real flash, take back to back shots without a fast buffer, do effects live in the preview etc..)

If you're willing to relax your requirements for size, some manufacturers made cameras that act like phones rather than the reverse - these might sate your requirement as long as you have big pockets.
 
Tin foil hat time a bit here but I honestly think the phone manufacturers have some sort of cartel thing going on where they have all agreed to never release a phone which ticks all the boxes.

Samsung make incredible hardware yet generally bad software & questionable aesthetics
Sony make great looking phones in both hardware and software areas yet cripple them with either insufficient storage and seriously under performing cameras
HTC - great looking phones, good software but terrible cameras and less than great battery life
Motorola have just released 2 phones with the specs round the wrong way (with bad choice of display)

Seriously - it MUST be intentional!! And now qualcom have come up trumps with a chip which could double as a radiator which causes hands to burn and cameras to switch off...

I'm starting to wonder this as well, it does seem as though someone COULD make as close to a perfect phone as any, but they choose not to; though perhaps if they did, they would struggle to sell you something a year down the line.

Give me the elegant looks and battery life of the Xperia Z3, the screen quality and camera of the SGS6 and the speakers and headphone sound quality of the HTC One M8, along with the stock(ish) software of Motorola's offerings, as well as either ample (64Gb) or expandable storage (min 32 internal), as well as water proofing and fast charging, and I will go out and buy the damn thing tomorrow.

For now, I make do with my Z3 which I think is the closest I can find to ideal right now, but like everything else there are compromises to be made. I actually also think that the iPhone 6 Plus is a good compromise too, but for the closed in nature of iOS and the outrageous price tag.

However, I guess if this perfect phone existed, things would be even more stagnant and we genuinely would have nothing to discuss :D
 
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