980 TI and Star Citizen

[MumboJumbo]

Hey,

I'm really wanting to upgrade my PC, but I worry about upgrading now and needing more juice for Star Citzen. My current PC is:

570 GTX
2500k @ 4.4GHz
8GB of ram
1440p monitor

I'm thinking of getting a 980 TI, skylake and 16gb of ram. Do you think I'll struggle at 1440p on the release of star citizen?

Thanks,

Mumbo

 

[FinglisHobbit]

Well if a 1000 quid pc struggles at 1440p then it's their fault and not yours. You're basically asking if the highest end single card gaming pc will play a game... I'd hope so.

 

[Kelt]

By the time Star Citizen is released, those of us still left alive will be playing it on the latest 1TB VHBM graphics cards around.

 

[Howling]

Well if a 1000 quid pc struggles at 1440p then it's their fault and not yours. You're basically asking if the highest end single card gaming pc will play a game... I'd hope so.

To be fair, it is a monster to run (or at least last time I played). It's totally un-runnable at 4k on my 7970s, hoping the furys will change that if they ever arrive -.-

 

[MumboJumbo]

Do you guys think that a 980 TI can keep 40+ fps at 1440p in a big space battle? There is a lot of optimisation to go I guess, but 100 of those ships flying about could melt a PC :/

Well if a 1000 quid pc struggles at 1440p then it's their fault and not yours. You're basically asking if the highest end single card gaming pc will play a game... I'd hope so.

The same could have been said of Crysis before it's launch and all single GPUs struggled with it. Star Citizen is ten fold the beast that Crysis was.

It's also unfair to say a £1000 quid PC 2 years before the game is launched. It won't be a £1000 PC then.

 

[FinglisHobbit]

Do you guys think that a 980 TI can keep 40+ fps at 1440p in a big space battle? There is a lot of optimisation to go I guess, but 100 of those ships flying about could melt a PC :/



The same could have been said of Crysis before it's launch and all single GPUs struggled with it. Star Citizen is ten fold the beast that Crysis was.

It's also unfair to say a £1000 quid PC 2 years before the game is launched. It won't be a £1000 PC then.

I just realised you're asking us to guess if a 980ti and skylake will run a game when it's released in two years from now. I'm not really sure anyone can tell you that.

Guess you just need to decide if you wanna spend money now and whether or not you will feel bitter if it struggles a bit 2 years from now.

 

[Calin Banc]

980ti should run it well, but not on top settings, not on 60fps locked. The game is still 2 years away until full PU is online, perhaps 7-12 months until the first part of the SP campaign.

Don't buy into high end from this point, buy for what you need now and upgrade later.

 

[MumboJumbo]

980ti should run it well, but not on top settings, not on 60fps locked. The game is still 2 years away until full PU is online, perhaps 7-12 months until the first part of the SP campaign.

Don't buy into high end from this point, buy for what you need now and upgrade later.

Yeah that might be the best approach. Perhaps I should pick up a 390 instead and look to upgrade again in 2 years. Does mean I'm likely looking at spending 800 quid on GPUs over 2 years though, which I don't really want to do either. Not sure my poor baby gonna keep going 2 years though

I just realised you're asking us to guess if a 980ti and skylake will run a game when it's released in two years from now. I'm not really sure anyone can tell you that.

Guess you just need to decide if you wanna spend money now and whether or not you will feel bitter if it struggles a bit 2 years from now.

If you don't like the question, you don't have to bother with the thread.

I don't expect anyone to know for sure, but if people felt strongly one way or another, that's useful information.

People who currently own a 980 TI might have even better insights themselves. Sadly I doubt my PC is going to keep going another 2 years, it's already 5 years old. Hence the position I find myself in where I'm trying to decide if it's better to drop money on the best single card I can or perhaps go cheap and buy again, but that may not work out cheaper in the long run regardless.

So it's actually worth discussing even though we can't know for sure. If you don't think so, don't bother discussing it. Simple.

 

[nashathedog]

Is Star citizen going to be a DX12 title, I know it's not now but if it's two years away as people are saying surely they want it too be, That will certainly help with space battles. As for getting a card if you can run the version we have now with what you have don't rush, wait for the die shrink and then you can get a card with some grunt. The cpu's probably going to be fine especially if it is a DX12 title.

 

[FinglisHobbit]

Yeah that might be the best approach. Perhaps I should pick up a 390 instead and look to upgrade again in 2 years. Does mean I'm likely looking at spending 800 quid on GPUs over 2 years though, which I don't really want to do either. Not sure my poor baby gonna keep going 2 years though




If you don't like the question, you don't have to bother with the thread.

I don't expect anyone to know for sure, but if people felt strongly one way or another, that's useful information.

People who currently own a 980 TI might have even better insights themselves. Sadly I doubt my PC is going to keep going another 2 years, it's already 5 years old. Hence the position I find myself in where I'm trying to decide if it's better to drop money on the best single card I can or perhaps go cheap and buy again, but that may not work out cheaper in the long run regardless.

So it's actually worth discussing even though we can't know for sure. If you don't think so, don't bother discussing it. Simple.

I never said I didnt like the question. I just gave you a reply.

It isnt unreasonable to say that people cant tell you how a PC is gonna perform with a game when it goes gold in 2 years time.

If you are struggling with this game or any other games now, then treat yourself to an upgrade soon and enjoy playing games as well as possible for 2 years. If at the point of release you arent happy with the performance then sell the 980ti and buy whatever top end card is out then.

 

[andybird123]

Is Star citizen going to be a DX12 title, I know it's not now but if it's two years away as people are saying surely they want it too be, That will certainly help with space battles. As for getting a card if you can run the version we have now with what you have don't rush, wait for the die shrink and then you can get a card with some grunt. The cpu's probably going to be fine especially if it is a DX12 title.

It is definitely going to support DX12

 

[new boy]

Upgrade to 980ti now if you want to. It would give your real tangible (sp?) benefits over your current GPU for today's games.

it would be sensible sit on the 2500k until you are really into a game that would benefit from a CPU upgrade, be that a game released today, at star citizen release or beyond.

Having said that, I "upgraded" from a 2600k @ 4.4GHz to a 4790k and went from 8gb to 16gb of ram too, mainly because I was board and fancied something new to play with so do what you want.

I would say the proposed hardware will run the game fine at release, but its not going to max it, and nothing short of tri-sli titan-2017 will either. But that's me getting my mystic meg on.

 

[TheMorningStar]

It's Vulkan/DX12 isn't it?

If it is 2 years away I wouldn't buy anything at the moment, you could do a full system upgrade when the end version hits with all components on the smaller manufacturing process, which should equate to a much more powerful system. You will also have a much better idea where you need to spend the money on the system CPU/GFX/RAM and get the best performance for your budget.

These new APIs should also vastly improve multi card setups, it may well be that your current system just needs a few GFX cards in SLI/Crossfire, probably gonna need that 16gb of ram mind, 8gbs is a little restrictive for me these days, can't see that getting better in two years.

 

[TNA]

By the time that game is complete and out a 980ti will be so yesterday news. By then I expect the single gpu of it's day will be anywhere between 60-100% faster.

I think I will have a pascal or potentially a volta by then, as the way it is going with Star Citizen, it won't be out for another 2-3 years

 

[MumboJumbo]

Yeah it would make sense to not upgrade until launch, but sadly my PC is already 5 years old. It's not got 7 years in it .

So I am stuck in the position of needing to upgrade and wanting it to be good enough for star citizen. I think I may have to just go cheap now and upgrade again later.

I'm thinking pick up a 390 and see where I am in 2 years.

Upgrade to 980ti now if you want to. It would give your real tangible (sp?) benefits over your current GPU for today's games.

it would be sensible sit on the 2500k until you are really into a game that would benefit from a CPU upgrade, be that a game released today, at star citizen release or beyond.

Having said that, I "upgraded" from a 2600k @ 4.4GHz to a 4790k and went from 8gb to 16gb of ram too, mainly because I was board and fancied something new to play with so do what you want.

I would say the proposed hardware will run the game fine at release, but its not going to max it, and nothing short of tri-sli titan-2017 will either. But that's me getting my mystic meg on.

Yeah I could keep the sandybridge longer, but I have to buy 2 new sticks of ram because I can't fit 4 and if I'm buying ram I might as well just buy all the things....right? I dunno, I may hold on to it, I'm expecting skylake to last me another 5 years though tbh, so i'm not bothered about waiting for the next big thing because CPUs are so far ahead of the GPUs.

The main issue I have is that my PC cannot last another 2 years, which puts me in a situation where I need to upgrade but need the hardware to be good enough for star citizen in 2 years. I'm not sure it's possible really.

 

[oldestgregg]

Well if a 1000 quid pc struggles at 1440p then it's their fault and not yours. You're basically asking if the highest end single card gaming pc will play a game... I'd hope so.

Its two years before release and just because a £1000 machine wont run it @60fps dosnt mean its badly optimised. The thing about pushing graphics and tech is it often takes a while before its affordable to run them well

 

[MumboJumbo]

I think I'm just going to have to suck it up and wait for pascal. I don't mind dropping £500 on a GPU if it can do SC justice, but the TI is likely not going to really going to be worth the investment when I need it the most in 2 years.

At least if I buy pascal, it's hopefully only 1 year before release and likely still very relevant for the launch.

Thanks for all the input . Here is hoping my gpu doesn't kick the bucket before then, it's not looking to hot atm. I get BSODs every few weeks atm

 

[andybird123]

If you think you have £500 to spend on a GPU now, will it really take you more than 2 years to save up another £500 to get whatever is "new" when SC does finally come out?

Or are you not planning on playing any other games until SC comes out?

 

[MumboJumbo]

If you think you have £500 to spend on a GPU now, will it really take you more than 2 years to save up another £500 to get whatever is "new" when SC does finally come out?

Or are you not planning on playing any other games until SC comes out?

It's not about what you can or can't save up. It's about how you value your money and where you choose to spend it. Just because I have £500 to spend on a GPU doesn't mean I want to spend another £500 in two years nor does it give any indication of how long I may have been saving for.

Ideally, I look to upgrade ever 3-5 years. I consider it a waste of money to continuously buy new GPUs, the price to performance gain just isn't there.

As for playing other games, there likely won't be any games before SC that require that kind of GPU power, so why spend that much for them? I'll put up with the 570 till I can get something that's decent for SC. I wasn't sure if the TI would be, but after discussing it I think it's not.

Disappointing really, wanted to upgrade, but I'm not interested in wasting money just because I want to buy something.

 

[new boy]

a 570 is pretty old now. Are you really happy with its performance at 1440P?