My PC at work takes about 4 minutes to log-in, I doubt an SSD would really help. Unfortunately I think the bottleneck is the crap slow network they've got us on, building is barely a year old but anything network/internet related is slow.
Why don't business laptops have SSDs as standard?
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take the 400 and put a £40 ssd in..
our laptops are being replaced id rather have an ssd for £40 than a new £550 dell... the only parts really failing in our laptops are HDDs and an SSD in my old laptop will make it much faster than the new HDD laptops,
make a better image next time, page file initial size 512mb, hibernation off...
Sure, I'll go tell the guys who look after that and no doubt be met with grunting and huffing
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I don't really see a specific requirement for SSDs in general day-to-day admin/office work. Then again, for me, that means office suite/web browsers/email clients/task organisation programmes.
Rarely turn off my laptop. It's either on and in use; in sleep mode between meetings etc/when it turns itself off due to inactivity (think: meeting/nap time etc); hibernate mode when the laptop puts itself into hibernate mode.
Laptop takes seconds to come back, never had a problem with programmes crashing etc. Sure an SSD would improve performance, but its not really necessary for my usage.
Rarely turn off my laptop. It's either on and in use; in sleep mode between meetings etc/when it turns itself off due to inactivity (think: meeting/nap time etc); hibernate mode when the laptop puts itself into hibernate mode.
Laptop takes seconds to come back, never had a problem with programmes crashing etc. Sure an SSD would improve performance, but its not really necessary for my usage.
This is just down to poorly informed business decision making. We always put the same maths logic to our customers when they asked if it was worth it. Some would not listen, and it was always the customers who would not listen who had problems.
In the end it comes down to the person you're talking too, some thing about the long term day to day running of the company, others think only about their profit/bonus next quarter. Its usually the latter who suffer.
You look at staff cost compared to hardware cost, there is no comparison.
In the end it comes down to the person you're talking too, some thing about the long term day to day running of the company, others think only about their profit/bonus next quarter. Its usually the latter who suffer.
You look at staff cost compared to hardware cost, there is no comparison.
Probably, depends what framework they're buying the kit under. We used to have full control over the procurement tenders, now we're under the thumb of AGMA who are under the thumb of the Government Procurement Service.
We've got the option to add an SSD at reasonable cost on most of our kit from the current tender. We're trying to persuade management to sign off on SSDs where they'll provide a tangible benefit. That's actual end users, not management buying themselves shiny new gadgets.
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Depends on what the devices will be used for. If it's for Office applications and you have a 3/4 year refresh lifecycle why overspend on something that will provide power your users are unlikely to ever come close to using?
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I finally convinced the sites I work at that ssd is worth it. They now run all sff desktops with 128gb ssd. Laptops we buy ssd and swapout the hd.
Making a new windows profile should not need to be done. Just need to clean it up. The way my imaging is setup if you do a new profile its already configured. If I had a work laptop or desktop and they wouldn't pay for ssd I would buy my own.
Another site I work at they have vdi and xenapp internally. They are always moaning about slowness and slow start up. Using a non ssd pc is so slow now. I cant put up with it.
Making a new windows profile should not need to be done. Just need to clean it up. The way my imaging is setup if you do a new profile its already configured. If I had a work laptop or desktop and they wouldn't pay for ssd I would buy my own.
Another site I work at they have vdi and xenapp internally. They are always moaning about slowness and slow start up. Using a non ssd pc is so slow now. I cant put up with it.
A £600 laptop won't make a 4 year cycle. Also you're assuming no related benefits would come from giving people better laptops in terms of time-saving, improved battery life enabling people to be more productive away from power etc.
It just seems bizarre to me to go through the expense of recruiting staff, bringing them up to speed, paying their salaries, paying related taxes and benefits, ensuring your office has enough square footage to accommodate them, making sure that network drops and furniture is in place etc. and then cheaping out on the IT equipment to save less than £1000.
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We're now putting SSD's in all laptops and desktops. We'll hopefully soon be retiring the last of the spindle drive machines.
We've recently changes CTO's and owners so have gone from a decade of chronic under-investment in technology to a huge push to have the entire business technology led which means more headcount, better infrastructure, redesigning worflows. Great stuff
We've recently changes CTO's and owners so have gone from a decade of chronic under-investment in technology to a huge push to have the entire business technology led which means more headcount, better infrastructure, redesigning worflows. Great stuff
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It's probably wildly different in the private sector, but in my school we had (still have actually) a lot of old PCs. Since I started we've progressively replaced many of them, but because we don't want to throw all of our budget at PC replacements, we got some software to determine the performance bottlenecks in the older machines. With the evidence, we proposed that SSDs were a way to squeeze an extra couple of years out of old hardware. Being in education, we don't pay VAT and we just got simple 120GB drives for like £30 a pop. Turned out to be a pretty inexpensive investment and it worked a treat.
So yeah, if you can prove that you need the SSD, I'm sure they'll jump on it.
So yeah, if you can prove that you need the SSD, I'm sure they'll jump on it.
pcie SSD in my ultrabook. As our IT policy dictates we must have bitlocker enabled on laptops, so having solid state certainly helps with the performance. Desktops still have mechanical hdd's. With the amount of storage in use, it would probably be rather expensive to replace all mechanical drives with SSD.
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Sorry, please explain to me why admin staff whose job consists of answering calls, booking appointments, and filling in a few spreadsheets/word documents need an i7 with 16GB RAM and a dedicated GPU?
My FD would (quite rightly) have told me to **** off if I'd suggested spending £1,300 per laptop for our recruitment team when £400 laptops were perfectly adequate
