Why don't business laptops have SSDs as standard?
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Plenty of IT departments who are given no choice because their non-techy financial director thinks an i7 and a Celeron are basically the same since they both say "Intel" on the box
How many techies do you know who would willingly underspec things? I know I'd kit out our entire office with SLI Titans and dual 34" 21:9 monitors if I thought I could get away with it
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We've just been upgraded to Windows 7... count yourself lucky!
An SSD would be a looooooong way down the list!
An SSD would be a looooooong way down the list!
Where I work when people ask for a laptop we buy refurb E-series Latitudes and upgrade them with standard SSDs. User's initially complain that the Laptops aren't "new", but that is normally long forgotten when they get using them.
Much better than the alternative option of buying "home spec" new laptops, based on what our General Manager thinks is an acceptable budget.
We've just been upgraded to Windows 7... count yourself lucky!
I know the feeling as we are still mid Windows 7 rollout (PC's are being replaced with new), but at the rate of about 6 a month
Up until very recently we never bought SSDs as the option was too much. Our laptop users mostly work permanently offsite too so size of storage was more important than speed.
No SSDs in any desktops, again due to cost factors.
Only ones now that always get them are the few ultraportables and Surface Pros we have.
I agree the performance benefit is great, my own work laptop had a 'upgrade' last Black Friday
Benefits of IT etc...
Unfortunately, like many companies, IT is seen as an expense rather than a contribution. the department that always wants to spend!
No SSDs in any desktops, again due to cost factors.
Only ones now that always get them are the few ultraportables and Surface Pros we have.
I agree the performance benefit is great, my own work laptop had a 'upgrade' last Black Friday
Benefits of IT etc...
Unfortunately, like many companies, IT is seen as an expense rather than a contribution. the department that always wants to spend!
The original CAD desktop I was given when I joined the company had a mech hard drive and didn't even have a dedicated graphics card!
Since then I requested more RAM, a Quadro graphics card and a SSD. The upgrades seriously pay for themselves with time saved (especially in bootup time and opening software), but its annoying how CAD software only utilizes one core.
Since then I requested more RAM, a Quadro graphics card and a SSD. The upgrades seriously pay for themselves with time saved (especially in bootup time and opening software), but its annoying how CAD software only utilizes one core.
It's because the CAD software industry relies on releasing the same product each year with some of the show-stopping bugs of the previous version having been fixed. No they won't patch the old version.
It's called The Adobe Way and the amount of effort and innovative thought that goes into it leaves no room for actual features.
It's called The Adobe Way and the amount of effort and innovative thought that goes into it leaves no room for actual features.
Plenty of IT departments who are given no choice because their non-techy financial director thinks an i7 and a Celeron are basically the same since they both say "Intel" on the box
How many techies do you know who would willingly underspec things? I know I'd kit out our entire office with SLI Titans and dual 34" 21:9 monitors if I thought I could get away with it
It's probably just as much the case that the IT Departments are unwilling or unable to come up with a valid business case to show the powers that be that the extra cost is worth it.
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Oh we can make the business case but nobody ever listens to IT anyway!
Unfortunately this.
The IT department is invisible until something goes wrong, and then it's all their fault
Unfortunately this.
The IT department is invisible until something goes wrong, and then it's all their fault
This is my life.
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Unfortunately this.
The IT department is invisible until something goes wrong, and then it's all their fault
Invisibly support the whole business by keeping the servers, infrastructure and desktops running smoothly. Often on a string shoe budget with minimal staff.
Yeah, we do nothing.
This is my life.
The finger of blame is quick to be pointed at IT.
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Invisibly support the whole business by keeping the servers, infrastructure and desktops running smoothly. Often on a string shoe budget with minimal staff.
Yeah, we do nothing.
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This. I used to have this arguement with my old boss on printers. I always wanted to buy laser printers for £200+ but he would never sign off on it when Lexmark inkjets could be bought for £50 or less.
I snuck a few laser printers into the office and he still complained when I was buying toner for more than the cost of an inkjet printer.
Then his printer broke and he went off himself to Pcworld and bought a Lexmark printer. He was pleased as punch with how much he had saved rather than let buy it.
Roll on a month later and he had already spent over £60 in ink cartridges and he came into my office and threw his printer into the bin and asked me to order him a laser printer
Cost up front doesnt always equate to total life costs.
Thats all you need to get your bean counter to look at.
Because the purchasing dept is often non-technical, and doesn't take kindly to being told what to buy buy the IT dept. At least that's how it was in the council I worked for.
Managers got whatever they wanted (lol, I'll have an iPhone and iPad please) and the plebs got whatever the purchasing dept /thought/ was a good deal. Like when people go to PC World and think they're getting a top spec PC
Public sector is a nightmare though and doesnt help their IT hands are often tied.
My local school were fund raising to buy 5 magic whiteboads (the ones which record what is written on them and cost something like £2,500 each so were trying to raise £12,500 with tombolas, raffles and events and wrote to local businesses and parents for support.
My boss contacted his IT suppliers and could get these exact same make and model screens for £1250 so he offered to allow the school to buy through him so all 5 would be £6,250 and he would pay for one himself so they could have 5 for £5,000 and hence would reach their target quicker.
He was told politely that they couldnt buy through him as they had to buy only from approved IT suppliers and that was the price. He was so mad about the waste of money he then removed his offer of buying one outright.
My local school were fund raising to buy 5 magic whiteboads (the ones which record what is written on them and cost something like £2,500 each so were trying to raise £12,500 with tombolas, raffles and events and wrote to local businesses and parents for support.
My boss contacted his IT suppliers and could get these exact same make and model screens for £1250 so he offered to allow the school to buy through him so all 5 would be £6,250 and he would pay for one himself so they could have 5 for £5,000 and hence would reach their target quicker.
He was told politely that they couldnt buy through him as they had to buy only from approved IT suppliers and that was the price. He was so mad about the waste of money he then removed his offer of buying one outright.
I do agree with the "Don't bother with a cheap laptop" as they never do last the time. But £1300 is overkill IMO.
HP's Elite book range is all you need which for a good model is around £800.
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[FnG]magnolia;28412194 said:
I'm not sure these so called 'other departments' do anything. I mean what on Earth does marketing even do?