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doofer said:
It's tragic how so few care or even value their Privacy, no wonder Govts. and Corporations think they can do what the hell they like. Thanks to the idiotic 'Nothing to Hide' Brigade. :(
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Stop talking crap. Its nothing to do with not caring, its about seeing the value in personal data use to improve the user experience.

Google Now is fantastic. When traveling with flights and things it's brilliant, and that's because it has the access to read my emails. The Web is full of adverts, so if I'm going to see them I'd like them to be relevant, which Google does a great job of by monitoring your browser use. Being able to talk to Cortana like a PA is a cool concept that has lots of potential, but to work it needs access to your emails and calendar and to listen to your voice.

These are all things I see the value in so I'm happy to have on. If your not then don't use them. But its nothing to do with me not caring about my data.

All this Windows 10 hoo ha has highlighted is just how utterly ignorant most people are about how their data is already being stored and used. I imagine for most people everything they have ever looked at online at work is logged and stored by their employers. Should everyone quit their jobs to prevent 'an organisation having their personal details'?

The aura of superiority people are trying to put out because they are' bigger than us' by turning everything off is rather pathetic.
 
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People need to be aware of the fact a lot of this "personal information" is required and its a brand new os which they want to ensure its working correctly.

For example people are complaining about location settings - cortana/weather etc need it but if you don't use them turn it off?

Advertising I'd - this is used for bespoke marketing which a lot of websites do via cookies. Amazon for example? At least msft give you the chance to turn it off.

If you turn all privacy stuff off in w10 you are using w8.1 or 7 so why not complain when you are given the choice?

As people have already said - if you install you are agreeing to the terms and if you don't agree with it, don't use it or any computer for that matter. Also, now that the choice is visible, its just that much more obvious of what a lot of companies already do without "visible choice" to say no.

Getting real sick of seeing people complain about the fact msft have made it obvious how ignorant a lot of end users can be about their privacy. And also the fact they care about the experiences of their customers. Jeez, windows 8 they were abused for not caring and now they do care, they are still getting abused.
 
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Skeeter said:
The aura of superiority people are trying to put out because they are' bigger than us' by turning everything off is rather pathetic.
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It will seem that way to you but it's just you embracing your submissiveness, kowtowing to your Corporate Overlords.
 
Theres a tool on the webs that apparently deals with the privacy stuff for win 10, also lets u uninstall things that by default are uninstallable cos of MS.

Edit - https://i.imgur.com/iHge6RJ.jpg Image i found that complains and shows all the privacy stuff ppl are not happy with.
 
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I upgraded to Windows 10 yesterday at night time, never tried it on a VM. I usually play around with a system for good 3-4 weeks before even attempting at installing it, but had a play on my mates gaming riq and quite liked it. They took what's good about windows 7 and Windows 8.1 then they've combined it together and created Win10.

I've nothing to hide, don't really care about monitoring if it helps to develop better tech in the future. I have separate drive with Linux which has some nice tools that help me be 100% anonymous, I wouldn't recommend using Tor even on Windows 7. :p
 
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Agree with IC3

Great and simple operating system, and with the privacy settings you can turn off pretty much most of the things that will bother the tinfoil hat brigade.

What people don't realise is that the system learning what you do is NOT full on spying, just making your experience easier and more convenient (with slight spying in the background)
 
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As someone who has used 10 since it first out in Beta, i'm going to add my 10p's worth here. It's actually very very easy to disable all of Win10's "ring home" ability's, apart from One Drive. So for most peeps on this forum that we would expect to be IT savy, this really should not be a problem.
The thing i can't understand at all though is MS's thinking on business users. Business users are going to get the same OS with the same setup. Now as both a private and business user i can't see any logic in that business model.
If as a business i handled and stored large amounts of private data, there is no way in this world i would allow Win10 to be the OS handling that data, unless it had been completely locked out of any "handshake" with MS or ANYONE else. As MS's licence calls for you as the end user to agree to them having that ability, i simply could not and would not allow any business i run to let WIN10 anywhere near my network.
As a side note as well, i would be horrified if ANY UK Government departments did either.
As an example, let's say the NHS decided to move to WIN10. All the talk we have at the moment about data protection would be about as much use as an an ashtray on a motorbike. Governments might just as well hand over all the data they have to MS and by extension to the US Government.
It could be that MS had that intention all along, i don't think they did. But you can't impose this sort of licence on business and expect them to accept it.
 
Keyboards'Fear said:
Agree with IC3

Great and simple operating system, and with the privacy settings you can turn off pretty much most of the things that will bother the tinfoil hat brigade.

What people don't realise is that the system learning what you do is NOT full on spying, just making your experience easier and more convenient (with slight spying in the background)
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No mater what you can turn off using the GUI you have no idea what sub messages it sends back, more than you realise.
 
matdom said:
No mater what you can turn off using the GUI you have no idea what sub messages it sends back, more than you realise.
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If you look at my post on the Dark Web thread you'll realise I now understand.

I read the thread on the Dark/deep web, then suddenly my YouTube recommendations were full of dark web stuff which I've never searched before.

I was using Chrome, so I'm more worried about what Google is ACTUALLY doing with my info than what Microsoft can do.

Microsoft is nothing compared to Google these days, and since I will continue to use Chrome everything Win. 10 does will not bother me
 
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If you look at my post on the Dark Web thread you'll realise I now understand.

I read the thread on the Dark/deep web, then suddenly my YouTube recommendations were full of dark web stuff which I've never searched before.

I was using Chrome, so I'm more worried about what Google is ACTUALLY doing with my info than what Microsoft can do.

Microsoft is nothing compared to Google these days, and since I will continue to use Chrome everything Win. 10 does will not bother me
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it should bother you because MS is doing the same, just because they give you the option to turn it off does not mean it does.;)
 
What kind of person agrees to this load of carp?

"We will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to"

"The European Digital Rights Organisation summed it up with"

"The company appears to be granting itself the right to share your data either with your consent 'or as necessary"
 
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