Am i justified in my complaint or being petty?

Nodiggidy123 said:
I'm going to tomorrow. It's something I'd completely forgotten about until you just mentioned it
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Sounds like you have become very comfortable and slack in your job, basically turning up, going through the motions, and collecting the paycheck every month.

Personally I think that having kids would only drive me to better my position in order to secure a better future.
 
Nodiggidy123 said:
Hence why I'm looking at other career options as per my other post. I've already applied for a couple of jobs. Just waiting for the closing dates
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Wasn't meaning to be critical mate, sorry if it appeared that way. Was just observing on the lack of appraisal etc as that is a sure sign that you are at a non-progressive company.

My sincere advice would be to ask about the appraisal and payrise in a very nice way, and at the same time be sweet as pie and keep applying for jobs. And by sweet as pie I mean keep doing exactly what you are doing with the opening up early so that you don't give them any cause to doubt or question you. The key to job searching is to keep your employer oblivious that you are doing it. Good luck. :)
 
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ok so this morning ive formally asked for a appraisal in order to identify areas i do well/ dont do well in order to progress, and just to be told that the manger intends to do everyone by the end of the year.

so i could be waiting a while. :(
 
Nodiggidy123 said:
ok so this morning ive formally asked for a appraisal in order to identify areas i do well/ dont do well in order to progress, and just to be told that the manger intends to do everyone by the end of the year.

so i could be waiting a while. :(
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They're stringing you along. No appraisal for two years, and they say this when you ask?
 
1 person a week!? Definitely sounds like a "Oh let's just give him something to keep him quiet"

We have monthly reviews in our office of 4, done and dusted in one day of the month and everyone knows where they stand.
 
tom_e said:
1 person a week!? Definitely sounds like a "Oh let's just give him something to keep him quiet"
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We have a new manager who has only been there since the start of the year but still 7 months is long enough to assess your employees. a new starters probationary period is only 6 months.

as it stands im not sure if i want to stay here or not. do you think its worth going to HR and stating my grievances in the misguided hope something might change or should i just stay quiet and look elsewhere?
 
Nodiggidy123 said:
We have a new manager who has only been there since the start of the year but still 7 months is long enough to assess your employees. a new starters probationary period is only 6 months.

as it stands im not sure if i want to stay here or not. do you think its worth going to HR and stating my grievances in the misguided hope something might change or should i just stay quiet and look elsewhere?
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Look elsewhere. The problem is the institutional attitude ie, they don't care much for their employees, and think everyone is easily replaceable. As long as work gets done and the people on top get paid, they don't care about paying their employees well, making sure they are happy, progressing them in their roles or within the company. They are just not that into you.
 
Steampunk said:
Look elsewhere. The problem is the institutional attitude ie, they don't care much for their employees, and think everyone is easily replaceable. As long as work gets done and the people on top get paid, they don't care about paying their employees well, making sure they are happy, progressing them in their roles or within the company. They are just not that into you.
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...and if everyone is easily replaceable and the work does get done, you can't really blame them :p
 
Kenai said:
...and if everyone is easily replaceable and the work does get done, you can't really blame them :p
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the thing is the role i do is proving not as easy to replace people with the same skills/knowledge.

ive seen a few of my colleagues get fed up and leave and often wonder how there replacments got the job and there figures reinforce this it yet the company doesnt seem to recognise this.

the more and more i think about it, it really does seem that leaving is my only option.
 
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If management don't care, they don't know. One place I worked, management was truly shocked when they asked us to do our own job specification so they could advertise for more staff. Turned out there were about twenty core competencies, and they just never knew all the stuff we did.

There's the adage that you train people up so they can leave, but keep them happy so they stay. It increases productivity, and you end up promoting people upwards as they work to expand they company, instead of bringing faceless managers in who don't know they business. Worse yet, people leave, take their expertise with them, and you end up on a downward spiral sticking with the people who bring little of value to the company long-term.
 
After skim reading the thread, yes i would say you were originally being petty, but it seems like you should be petty.

Based on the recent comments about no appraisals for 2 years, and no plan on doing them until the end of the year just sounds like they're stringing you along. Best advice would be to just stick exactly to your working hours, and when management realise that each day is 15 mins late because no-one is arriving early to open up, they'll have to make a change. What happens when you're an annual leave??

What's the worse that can happen? I see two outcomes, they either be petty in your appraisal - but it doesn't sound like you get many of them anyway. Or they decide that someone's shift needs changing to allow for someone to open up, and may let you leave 15 mins early.
 
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