Virgin Media Cable Advert

MagicBoy said:
Jeez, stop being so snobby. Yeah, twisted pair is so outdated. Not like it can do Gigabit speeds in other applications. OH hang on...

That BT managed to engineer Megabit level speeds out of a universal public utility that was built for analogue voice communications in the middle of the last century is impressive. Getting out a crystal ball and digging up all the roads in the country thirty years ago to fibre connect everyone because of a thirst for internet bandwidth in the last ten years just isn't reasonable. That and your bills would have gone through the roof.
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What do you mean, our bills still went through the roof. But like you say they didn't change the main phone lines :D:confused:
 
Ace Modder said:
Virgin Media is the best ISP I've ever had.

152mb connection, no throttling, no caps, nothing.

Never had any down time EVER!

I was with VM for 8 years, then moved to BT just because I moved house and the area didnt have Virgin, but then moved again back to a virgin area and have VM for 3 years again.

I have had VM in 4 cities/towns.
Wolverhampton, Walsall, Stafford and Newcastle under Lyme.

OP - you are very misguided with the Quality of Service VM gives.
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Same here, although I'm on 100mb I think, or 50mb I can't remember. Never had a problem.
 
MagicBoy said:
Jeez, stop being so snobby. Yeah, twisted pair is so outdated. Not like it can do Gigabit speeds in other applications. OH hang on...

That BT managed to engineer Megabit level speeds out of a universal public utility that was built for analogue voice communications in the middle of the last century is impressive. Getting out a crystal ball and digging up all the roads in the country thirty years ago to fibre connect everyone because of a thirst for internet bandwidth in the last ten years just isn't reasonable. That and your bills would have gone through the roof.
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POTS more often than not doesn't use twisted pair though, and BT went through a stage of using aluminium rather than copper too.

FTTP is slowly rolling out, which mutes this argument anyway.

For clarity, I don't think there's anything wrong with POTS either. It's functional and still serves its purposes. It's very rare that anyone who doesn't download illegally needs more than 80Mbps for a residential connection.
 
Ok, first, VM are great - you REALLY appreciate it when you move from a flat in the centre of a city with 150Mb to a new home in a small village where you get 5Mb :(

Also, while DOCSIS 3.0 is the protocol, it's adopting this protocol that lets them offer 150Mb connections so I'm not sure why everyone is hating of them for simply saying "we're using more up to date technology than our rivals"?

It's hardly the first advert in the world to add technology into the mix that the laymen won't understand.
 
Just wondering with regards to Virgin installation - if you live in a flat, do they have to run some cable up the outside of the building then drill a hole through the wall to get it into you flat? Or does it just use the existing BT master socket?
 
FutileBreadMachine said:
Just wondering with regards to Virgin installation - if you live in a flat, do they have to run some cable up the outside of the building then drill a hole through the wall to get it into you flat? Or does it just use the existing BT master socket?
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it depends on what kind of flat you live in as if its a big block of flats, it will be pre wired in a cupboard, if its not a big block of flats they will run a wire up the side of the building then drill a hole in the wall.

they will not use a BT socket they will fit there own which should be in a brown box
 
neil_g said:
business connections are fibre into the premises. but slightly different pricing structure there :D
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Nope, I have one and you can still chose between the two. Would like FTTP but their pricing is ridiculous and you either choose 152mb or 1gig. Nothing in between which is crazy. (Would really like 300mb)
 
cadmunkey said:
Nope, I have one and you can still chose between the two. Would like FTTP but their pricing is ridiculous and you either choose 152mb or 1gig. Nothing in between which is crazy. (Would really like 300mb)
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didnt realise you could chose, ours is fibre and we're cheapskates. had to dig up half the area to run it in.. :D

its only 50mb though? but is scalable.
 
welcome and i guess no one has tried to pull a fibre cable through the ducks on a build up area, also when pulling fibre most jobs are around 800 meters to 2200 meters long.

some people do not get the right download speed as when they come to install a new cable, the person who doing it is sometimes to lazy to pull the right cable, as just say you live 90 meters away from the cab (green box) they are ment to use RG11 but most use RG6 as its easier to pull through the ducks,

yes i worked for VM for 9 months, but left as the hours was too long
 
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Duke said:
They're not good, they are great.
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In fact they're GREEeeat.


/puts Tony back in his box


Rarely had a problem with them despite sometimes downloading 200gb a day (I think during one of the steam sales we downloaded about 400gb in a day).
 
I take it there's no more throttling the connection anymore on VM? Always found that and the significantly lower upload speed to be a major downside.
 
moogle said:
I take it there's no more throttling the connection anymore on VM? Always found that and the significantly lower upload speed to be a major downside.
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I am not sure about all their BB packages, but I don't get any throttling or usage caps or anything like that. I will concede that the upload speed is not the best though.
 
Virgin media throttling policy.

Historically, the infrastructure all came from cable TV, where the only upstream data was your pay-per-view movie selection - a few K at most. Most ISP's configure residential packages with a low upload speed compared to download speed as most home users are consuming content and not creating it. If you need a big upload speed, chances are you are really a business (or sharing ripped films on torrent streams).
 
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