I found out something about my fiance and her family and I don't know what to do...

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Tephnos said:
Lol.
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You're missing the point of what's being said, which was the point of my post initially.

When you are looking at those photos, and accepting them as factual, you are, regardless of whether you want to accept it or not, taking it on good faith that they are legitimate photos, because the reality is it's so easy to make imagery now with how powerful an average computer is that it's entirely possible that they could be fabricated.

Note, I'm not saying that they are fabricated, I'm highlighting the philosophical aspect here that people with an intelligence complex struggle to understand.

Nearly all of us take facts on good faith that they are true, and as such these images don't "prove" it unless you acknowledge it as a fact based on faith.

And as above, the reality of this seems to upset people with intelligence complexes, because these people don't do philosophy, their stance is "I think x, x is a fact and if someone doesn't agree then they're an idiot and stupid".
 
Surely you are not saying that the earth is not flat. Next you will be telling me that the moon is not made of cheese and that a man doesn't live in it?
 
Spacedeck said:
Why is everyone suddenly stupid if they have doubt on if it happened?
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Not necessarily stupid, but they have to be either gullible and deliberately ignorant or irrationally clinging to an entirely pointless act of faith for no reason at all. It's not even like religious faith because that can be perceived as having a purpose by the believer. Faith in a ludicrously implausible multi-generational conspiracy of thousands has a purpose only for those who profit by selling to the believers.

I say "deliberately ignorant" because anyone who is merely ignorant of the subject can easily get a superficial knowledge of it in minutes and that's all you need.

Quick summary:

1) The CGI needed to fake the videos didn't exist in the late 60s and early 70s. The photos could have been faked by hand, given enough skilled people and enough time, but not the video (e.g. the pendulum experiment, the low-g vacuum movement of objects).

2) The USA spent a fortune on the project and demonstrated the finished equipment that the many people working on it could confirm could do the job. The USA spent a lot more money sending a ship to the moon and back (which was independently tracked by many people using the signals it transmitted). So why would they not put people in it? Even ignoring (1), that would be a huge risk that would have required co-operation from the USSR in the conspiracy despite the fact that the whole point of the moon landings was for the USA to one-up the USSR.

3) There is no evidence that any of the photos or video was faked (even if it had been possible). The "evidence" proposed is just evidence of people not understanding that conditions on the moon are different to those on Earth. The classic is the night sky from the moon not showing any stars. People who think that's evidence of fakery are (a) assuming that the amazingly capable secret conspirators were somehow also so incompetent that they forgot to put the stars in and none of them noticed and (b) don't know that the sky on the moon is always black unless you're facing the sun (bad idea without heavy filtering and useless for photos) and the moon landings all took place during the day and that's why you can't see any stars.
 
1) How do you know NASA didn't have decent CGI back then....PROVE it

2)Prove to me that they spent so called money.

3)There is no evidence that any of the videos or photos are real.

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When i was a young ****head i thought it was clever to try and disprove everything too.
When i finally mentally matured i realized that being an obtuse retard really didn't solve anything and only made me look and sound stupid.

I cant prove that Italy is real because I've never been there.... But ill sleep soundly with the knowledge and a bit of faith, that it is a real place because of what is written on a map and pizzas.

From a scientific perspective it is sometimes wise to doubt and retest a hypothesis to prove its results but if you do that everyday to everything you might as well put a tinfoil hat on now.

I guess you could have talked to Neil Armstrong (RIP), on a polygraph, see if his acting skills held up to the test.
 
elmarko said:
It always shocks me when otherwise intelligent people hold questionable views. The amount of people who believe in say a homoeopathy, acupuncture, talking to spirits, ghosts, crystal healing, magic healing, prayer, big-foot/nessy or any other laughable belief is beyond me.
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I'm sure Steve Jobs regretted that decision ^^



ArnieRambo said:
1) How do you know NASA didn't have decent CGI back then....PROVE it

2)Prove to me that they spent so called money.

3)There is no evidence that any of the videos or photos are real.

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Not trying to be rude, but are you trying to be funny or are these supposed ot be genuine questions? (can't tell :P).
 
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To be honest the most compelling evidence of the moo landing is that it was tracked by multiple independent & some opposing agencies who would have gained by exposing the lie.
 
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