Moved from BT fibre to TalkTalk fibre - new router is pretty rubbish.

plasmahal

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OK,

I moved a few weeks ago from BT fibre to TalkTalk fibre large.

When BT moved me from normal broadband to fibre (FTTC) they did not install any new sockets etc in my property. We only have the one scocket (no test socket).

The BT home hub5 just plugged into the normal way my old router did via RJ11 into the filter on main socket and had no issues with BT HH5.

We wmnet from arounf 12mb to 50mb and that speed has been consistent on moving to talktalk.

Forward wind to now and move over to talktalk fibre large and we get the talktalk router (huwaei) and it just not seems to cope with the amount of traffic over wi-fi.

It needs rebooting at least twice a day as it grinds to a halt. I don't believe there is any issues with the internet connection just the router and wi-fi.

So, what kind of router can i replace it with?

I see OCUK sell adsl and cable routers but I don't know what type will work with my setup.

Prior to the BT HH5, i had an ASUS DSL-N55U which was brilliant.

suggestions please?
 
You need a cable router. The RT-N66U would be a decent choice, or spend a bit extra on the RT-AC66U. You'd also need a modem, such as the HG612 if you don't already have one.
 
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Don't you need a specific type of router that can cope with a FTTC line? That's because the protocol used on the remaining copper cable from your cabinet to your home is VDSL.

Do TalkTalk give any alternative recommendations?
 
You either need a router with an internal VDSL modem, or a cable router with a standalone VDSL modem (as supplied by Openreach and easy to find second-hand).

If you still have the DSL-N55U then you could use it either just for its wireless, or as a full router connected to a VDSL modem.
 
S2KIP said:
You need a cable router. The RT-N66U would be a decent choice, or spend a bit extra on the RT-AC66U. You'd also need a modem, such as the HG612 if you don't already have one.
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What is a cable router, modems are cable/dsl/fiber & the router is just a router, unless it is a combo modem/router...
 
plasmahal said:
Am i right in thinking this is what i am after:

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=NW-127-TP&groupid=46&catid=1595&subcat=1932

TP-Link N600 Wireless Dual Band Gigabit VDSL2/ADSL2+ Modem Router (TD-W9980)
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TP-Link are not a good brand... get something decent.

S2KIP said:
DSL-AC68U perhaps? There's a big thread about it on here.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18606945&highlight=rt-n68u

Bear in mind that since some of the comments that have been posted there will likely have been firmware updates. So look towards the later pages.
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They suffer from over-heating problems.







Billion routers are the best for ADSL/VDSL... sadly, OCUK don't appear to stock them.

Google:

Billion BiPAC 8800NL

and you'll find them on the rainforest with lots of reviews
 
TP-Link are not a very well known make - but not a good make?
I becamse aware of them about two years ago when I was looking for powerline adapters. Found they did a set with 4prts, power plug pass-through and doubled-up as a wireless access point at one end - which nobody else seemed to do.
These have been excellent and haven't missed a beat.
There are also plenty of revies out there for TP-Link routers and in the majority of cases these are positive. 80% highly satisified on Amazon, etc.

So not well known, but questioning there quality seems a little off. All depends if you're a corporate whore or not. I know there are those people who will only buy certain brands, the iPhone users who will use no other handset for example, but just because a name isn't so well known, doesn't make the product poor.
 
QC issues and cheap internal components... you get what you pay for really and they're one of the cheapest.

TP-Link + Belkin = stay clear... even if they work well to begin with, they seem to fail sooner than other brands.

People will usually leave those reviews in the first year or so... when the performance rate will be higher... I've known routers to last 10 years and some last 1.5.

That Billion router I recommended gets over 90% on rainforest reviews. Billion are also renowned for good chips for improved sync speeds & most importantly - latency.

These routers will make the internet "feel" quicker, even with an identical sync speed because they are good at bringing latencies down.

I have the older generation for my current adsl2+ connection... compared to NG DG834GT on the same line which was already better than operator-issues router, the Netgear had a minimum ping of 40-45ms

The Billion brought that down to 13ms!

Very similar sync speed, but the improvement is dramatic.

That's only my home recommendation, having worked as a network engineer - I have seen similar things in quite a few other places also.

Your average user won't know this kind of difference until they have experienced it for themselves.
 
Talktalk have just changed the router they use from the HG635 to the HG633, which if you have a look at there forum lots of people are having wi-fi problems.
Lots of users are getting lots of errors on there wi-fi connection with this new router, with the looks of it there's some sort of software/firmware update coming to fix it.

The Billion BiPAC 8800NL is a good little router, but I found the wi-fi not as good as the HG635 (the better first Talktalk super router).

I use the Billion BiPAC 8800AXL which has better wi-fi and seems to run a lot better with lots of connections.
 
crinkleshoes said:
QC issues and cheap internal components... you get what you pay for really and they're one of the cheapest.

TP-Link + Belkin = stay clear... even if they work well to begin with, they seem to fail sooner than other brands.

People will usually leave those reviews in the first year or so... when the performance rate will be higher... I've known routers to last 10 years and some last 1.5.

That Billion router I recommended gets over 90% on rainforest reviews. Billion are also renowned for good chips for improved sync speeds & most importantly - latency.

These routers will make the internet "feel" quicker, even with an identical sync speed because they are good at bringing latencies down.

I have the older generation for my current adsl2+ connection... compared to NG DG834GT on the same line which was already better than operator-issues router, the Netgear had a minimum ping of 40-45ms

The Billion brought that down to 13ms!

Very similar sync speed, but the improvement is dramatic.

That's only my home recommendation, having worked as a network engineer - I have seen similar things in quite a few other places also.

Your average user won't know this kind of difference until they have experienced it for themselves.
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I'm not doubting for a second that more expensive brands will use more expensive components. But I feel there is more than a little embellishment in your post. With standard "home user" equipment one device changed a ping rate from 45ms to 13ms - sorry, no, don't believe that.

The world is very much a different place to where it was 10 years ago - a time when the "cheap and cheerful" were purchased with an expectation of 2yrs of use maximum and then failure was accepted and expected.
The "cheap" brands are due to the overall cheapness components can now be sourced and the cheap labour to build them.
You only need to look into the car world were brands considered "cheap junk" now offer 10+ year warranties and have glowing reviews galore because yes, they are being made cheap, and yes they may not be luxury - but they are more than adequate at doing their job and perform as well as their expensive counterparts.
 
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