E-cigarettes could be prescribed by the NHS to help smokers quit

Another ex-smoker here. Vaping for 20 months. Taste, smell and even fitness has improved just from switching.

Can't recommend it enough. Curious? Head over to the vapers lounge thread. Whole wealth of experience and advice there. Also we are a friendly bunch ;)
 
Liquiduk said:
You make a great point but if the gov see an opportunity to squeeze money out of people, believe me they will jump at it.
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This is exactly why I'm happy for the status quo to remain. I've saved loads of cash over the 53 weeks I've been smoke free. I don't want to start paying more. Although if they do tax them, I will just buy a shipping container of the constituent parts are begin mixing my own liquid.
 
thebennyboy said:
You're either a smoker or not a smoker. Whether you class yourself as a "social smoker" or "on and off smoker", you are still a smoker. I still stand by my point that you are addicted from the moment you have your first fag.

Nasty habbit that should have been banned by now.
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So everyone who has ever had a drink is an alcoholic too?

The amount of people I know that have done coke, or even meth, in the past, and no longer do would probably blow your tiny mind.

You do realise that everyone has their own predilections for getting addicted to things, be it coffee, porn or extreme sports, right?
 
thebennyboy said:
I never said they were bad, i was just saying switching to e-cigs isn't solving the addiction. Of course i do agree that some don't have the willpower and that they aren't actually smoking fags any more which i guess is still a step in the right direction.
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Correct. You perhaps aren't solving the addiction. Although different level juices can help this.

You change the method of delivery. From combustion to vaporising.

It's not like for like.. But would you rather eat your favourite food whilst it's surrounded in smoke, or whilst it's surrounded in water vapour.
 
balky12 said:
Correct. You perhaps aren't solving the addiction. Although different level juices can help this.

You change the method of delivery. From combustion to vaporising.

It's not like for like.. But would you rather eat your favourite food whilst it's surrounded in smoke, or whilst it's surrounded in water vapour.
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That's all i'm trying to say. It's not really solving the addiction, i do feel happier seeing people using e-cigs as they are not ingesting nearly so many harmful chemicals.

krooton said:
Back your opinions up with facts, and maybe people would be a bit more welcoming.

Just sayin'
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It's an opinion, i don't need to prove my opinion. I never stated anything i said as fact. As you said yourself, it's an opinion.
 
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thebennyboy said:
No such thing as a "social smoker", no matter who you are you'll still be addicted to the nicotine. It only takes one fag to get addicted.
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I've got to disagree with you, like krooton i can easily go days, weeks or months without one until i get into certain situations.

I used to be a smoker addicted with the constant need for nicotine, but since quitting once for about 6 months i lost the habit and need for nicotine. Now i find my only desire for one is out of habit. Things like a sunny day out with friends triggers the need, drinking in a pub triggers it (although alcohol is said to exaccerbate the need). During any other occasion such as being at home all day, or being at work i don't feel the need to smoke at all as if my addiction doesn't exist.

Whether chemically there is still an addiction there or not, i don't feel that addiction anymore until it's triggered by an event i previously associated with enjoying smoking. I wouldn't consider myself classified as a smoker, but i wouldn't say I'm a non-smoker either. Calling it social smoking is the easiest way to describe the situation some of us find ourselves in regardless of the presence of an addiction we feel or not. At the end of the day, i think it's safe to say many of us wish we could say we were non-smokers, and that's what i strive to be! :D

Anyway.....trying to to quit completely again and steer clear of them at the moment. Thinking of starting e-cigs but at the moment I'm seeing how i get on with getting into those social or enjoyment situations and just saying "no don't do it!" to myself. So far so good. :)
 
I gave up smoking over 4 years ago, been vaping since.

Now.... the last thing I think about is a cig if I cannot vape for whatever reason. I crave the vape itself.

I've replaced one habit for another, but at least it's not as lethal and far far cheaper.

There are worse vices to have.
 
thebennyboy said:
I don't have a single issue with people disagreeing with me, i knew people would anyway. I respect your opinion, just wished others would show the same for mine.
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I'm not going to pass judgement on who's wrong and who's right, we're all welcome to our opinions as you say, but i'd suggest that it's worth ignoring any opinions that resort to name calling/belittling others intelligence based on their opinions. ;)

We're creatures of habit, part of the addiction of smoking is the feel of a ciggerette in your hands and the inhaling of smoke, by passing that off to a device that is healthier than ciggerettes we're only moving the addiction to a safer alternative. So id' say you're both right and wrong at the same time about people getting addicted to e-cigs...they're already addicted to the habit of holding, inhaling etc. but that habit being moved to a safer alternative can only be a good thing :) breaking the addiction of habit is one of the hardest bits i've found about quitting. I can drop the nicotine reliance quite easily, but i still want to hold something.
 
thebennyboy said:
I don't have a single issue with people disagreeing with me, i knew people would anyway. I respect your opinion, just wished others would show the same for mine.
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'It only takes one fag to be addicted' is a statement of fact not an opinion. You are either addicted or not, opinion doesn't come into it. And no you aren't addicted if you smoke once. Unless you think that I'm an addict because of that one fag i smoked when I was about 13 to try it?
 
mrbios said:
I'm not going to pass judgement on who's wrong and who's right, we're all welcome to our opinions as you say, but i'd suggest that it's worth ignoring any opinions that resort to name calling/belittling others intelligence based on their opinions. ;)

We're creatures of habit, part of the addiction of smoking is the feel of a ciggerette in your hands and the inhaling of smoke, by passing that off to a device that is healthier than ciggerettes we're only moving the addiction to a safer alternative. So id' say you're both right and wrong at the same time about people getting addicted to e-cigs...they're already addicted to the habit of holding, inhaling etc. but that habit being moved to a safer alternative can only be a good thing :) breaking the addiction of habit is one of the hardest bits i've found about quitting. I can drop the nicotine reliance quite easily, but i still want to hold something.
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You can hold something of mine ;)
 
Rilot said:
If it helps smokers quit than I'm all for it. Whatever it costs the NHS to do this, it will be less than the cost of treating the myriad of diseases a smoker is likely to contract before they die.

<-- Been smoke free for 1 year 284 days because of e-cigs.
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Same here. Been smoke free for 141 days now only due to e-cigs despite having tried numerous times with other methods :D

Gf has been off the fags for 4 years now too
 
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StriderX said:
You can hold something of mine ;)
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balky12 said:
Correct. You perhaps aren't solving the addiction. Although different level juices can help this.

You change the method of delivery. From combustion to vaporising.

It's not like for like.. But would you rather eat your favourite food whilst it's surrounded in smoke, or whilst it's surrounded in water vapour.
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its a route to removing nicotine though. I am not on as strong nicotine as when I started and my gf after 4 years has no nicotine in her vape but still vapes.
 
In somewhat of an agreement with OP. I’m all for GPs advising smokers to switch to e-cigarettes but surely not to subsidise the cost of such action via prescriptions. If the individual concerned can afford purchasing cigarettes, they can afford purchasing the relevant materials for e-smoking.
 
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