France has loads of wind farms as well, more than the UK I'd say.
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France has loads of wind farms as well, more than the UK I'd say.
No, it is not cheap, but it is far less aggravating environmental-wise.
But oh no, wont someone think of the children, someones building a nuclear bomb in my back garden...
I suppose when the oceans die, and people cant get their Cod and Haddock suppers anymore, people might listen.
Agreed, but that's a topic for another thread.
I think it's a bit early to be talking policy specifics under a Jeremy Corbyn led Labour Party. He's thrown out some ideas, but they're far from fully formed yet. They're closer to principles than policies. He's also talked about wanting to change the way the party is run, with members having a larger say on policy specifics.
His 10 point list is interesting as it gives an indication of direction, but it's a long way from being a manifesto.
In spirit, the idea of nationalising utilities is noble, but I'd hope his team are mature enough to drop the idea if they can't make it work or if they can work out a better way to address prices.
His 10 point list is interesting as it gives an indication of direction, but it's a long way from being a manifesto.
In spirit, the idea of nationalising utilities is noble, but I'd hope his team are mature enough to drop the idea if they can't make it work or if they can work out a better way to address prices.
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Why do you think anyone who isn't a Labour supporter wants him to win then?
Well, they are being presented as hard left (which they are not), unworkable (which is also flase) & lacking economic credibility (which is also incorrect, his plans fit popular economic theory).
The only thing he really goes against is neoliberalism & conservitism - both are which are ideological stances & neither have a monopoly on economic plausibility.
Not at all. Nobody is talking policy specifics at this stage. It's all ideas, concepts and principles. Policy comes later. I don't think there's been a party leader (at least in my memory) who has laid out every specific policy, in detail, during a leadership election. Unles an election is looming there's no need.
I don't think the letter was intended to be support. It's merely a statement of fact; the ideas aren't that extreme and can work. It's a response to Corbyn’s critics, many of whom have tried to paint his economic ideas as being crazy and unworkable.
It must be strange being an economist in the UK at the moment. Ideas that are largely mainstream in economics are being painted as radical and unworkable by the media, while this government's radical economic policies are being marketed as the only way forward (despite not making much sense in macroeconomic terms).
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A few idiots like Toby Young doesn't constitute anyone who isn't a Labour supporter. A lot of the people barred from voting in the Labour leadership contest have come from left-wing parties like TUSC and the Greens - people who probably will vote Labour come the next general election as long as they're not running on a Tory-lite platform.
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Jeremy Corbyn: because Greece isn't that bad...
I much prefer Jeremy Corbyn: Who needs money anyway?
Or Jeremy Corbyn: Talk about timing.
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People called the Green Party's manifesto crazy before the election yet they don't call Corbyn crazy, even though both are offering the same thing.
Talk about ideologically driven policy, Corbyn is a perfect example. If you're rich you deserve to be punished, if you run a successful business you deserve to be punished, if you are trying to maximise your company's profits by using legal loopholes you're punished...
I would vote for Corbyn just because I know he'll put Labour out of power for a generation, which is good because the longer they're kept out of Government, the longer this country will actually work.
Paying tax isn't a punishment, but thanks for showing your underline reasoning so I can essentially know to ignore anything you say going forward.
There you go again, a post-and-run soundbite. You seem to have swallowed the Osborne rhetoric about us being one generous benefit payment to a scrounger away from turning into Greece with no understanding of why that's not the case.
Do you also believe that we have 'maxed out the nations credit card'?
Indeed, the problem with Greece was poor taxation collection & widespread tax fraud & avoidance.
If anything he's suggesting we behave less like Greece & closer to much of mainland Europe who already have many of his policies enacted.
If anything he's suggesting we behave less like Greece & closer to much of mainland Europe who already have many of his policies enacted.
