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Been out of touch a while so feel free to chastise. I built the last PC I did a spec me for so this isnt a fantasy build.

Two things: The cooler is not negotiable, the monitor may be, I really like the look of those new 34" superwide 1440p GSYNC ones but the PC should be built with 4K in mind.
CPU - want the 40 PCI lanes for "future proofing".
Haven't added any extra fans as cant work out how many I need but the fewer the better.
I want the hybrid GPU's as dont have the patience for proper water cooling but that CPU cooler enables you to add GPU's later on so potentially could get non hybrid cards or TX's.
No thought put into memory as never understood the benefit of expensive RAM.
Case can be changed just liked the colour, I find bigger cases easier to build so not against full tower, only requirement is I do not want a windowed case in any circumstances.

YOUR BASKET
1 x Asus Rampage V Extreme - Intel Core i7 5930K Six Core CPU & Motherboard Bundle ***£20 Saving*** £779.99
2 x EVGA GeForce GTX 980Ti Hybrid 6144MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (06G-P4-1996-KR) £659.99 (£1,319.98)
1 x Acer Predator 4k2k XB280HK 28" G-Sync Gaming Widescreen LED Monitor - Black/Red £469.99
1 x Crucial BX100 1.0TB SSD SATA 6Gbps 7mm Solid State Drive (CT1000BX100SSD1) £289.99
1 x EK Water Blocks Predator 360 All In One Watercooling Solution £202.99
1 x SuperFlower Leadex Platinum 1200W Fully Modular "80 Plus Platinum" Power Supply - Black £184.99
1 x Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX Mid Tower Case - Gun Metal £139.99
1 x TeamGroup Vulcan 16GB (4x4GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Quad Channel Kit - Red (TLRED416G3000HC16AQC01) £119.99
1 x Western Digital Caviar Green 4TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache HDD - OEM (WD40EZRX) £109.99
Total : £3,617.90 (includes shipping : Ex.VAT).

 
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Your PSU is overkill: I'm running two Titan X cards on an 850W PSU.
You may be better off with 2x 8 GB RAM.

Your total at the bottom says that it's Ex VAT but the prices you list are inclusive of VAT.
 
Yeah I always see conflicting info on PSU so tend to give myself an allowance but yes probably is overkill.
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Your PSU is massive overkill and it's pointless getting that. Get a 650/750w or similar.

A quick calculation on those specs shows a minimum usage of 750W+

CPU 145w
Mobo 100w
2x 980ti - 500W
695W without RAM, HDD's USB devices etc.

650 /750 is too low, any kind of mild over clock and you're looking at 800W + required.

I'd be looking at a 1000W minimum to give you some overhead in overclocking at a later date, even if you're not planning on doing it now.
 
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Didn't realise it was 2 x 980ti. Still a 750w would be enough, but would get an 850w . One of my friends is running 2 x980ti with a 750w and a 5960x without issues and they are all overclocked.
 
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Depends if you will use the power. My system can use 850w+ with my gtx 980Ti's on a custom bios.

Have you thought about a custom loop? It probably wouldn't be much more expensive than it is currently.

I wouldn't get the Acer, I have the same monitor and it's way below my ROG swift in terms of build and picture quality. Get a quality Acer screen if you want 4k. G-sync isn't really needed at 60hz. Personally I'd go 1440p 144hz coming from 4k 60hz I far prefer it.
 
Depends if you will use the power. My system can use 850w+ with my gtx 980Ti's on a custom bios.

Have you thought about a custom loop? It probably wouldn't be much more expensive than it is currently.

I wouldn't get the Acer, I have the same monitor and it's way below my ROG swift in terms of build and picture quality. Get a quality Acer screen if you want 4k. G-sync isn't really needed at 60hz. Personally I'd go 1440p 144hz coming from 4k 60hz I far prefer it.

Yeah I wouldn't recommend anything below 850w for it, and I think 850 would be borderline.

As for monitor, I'm half with you. I would say G-sync at 4k, I'm regretting not waiting for a freesync 4k, but there weren't any when I went 4k so :/
I'm currently looking at the 3440*1440 ultra wides that are coming out now. Higher refresh rates, appealing aspect ratio, less pixels to push. Much as I do like my 4k, I do think I'm hobbled a bit by the 60hz. So advice to OP, test a few monitors if you can - you may find you prefer something else :)
 
Due to the relatively small variance in price I don't see the point in scraping by with the bare minimum PSU but I appreciate my initial may have been a bit high.
I have read the horror stories about Acer but just not a lot of choice really. I would value the res over 144hz as I don't play FPS and don't understand how it feels any different in the games I do play :)
 
I was thinking about Hybrid 980Ti's in SLI and a AIO Coolers for CPu in my next build but was wondering how they will all mount in the case.

While the 1 double and 2 single rads will easily fit in the case i dont know how adjustable the EVGA hybrids are, I read they are set for Push and cant be turned to pull.
So what are you planning? mount he VGA rads on the top and set the CPU to pull and mount on the front?
Are all those tubes long enough?

I cant be bothered with a custom loop (i have a fear of bricking GPUs after an incident involving a screwdriver and a PCB) and was looking at your strategy vs a OCUK prebuilt rig and it seems like a good way to get 95% on the power for 70% of the money (but lose out allot on the looks).

My other question would be the MoBo, now i know its the best of the best but do you really need all those features and the OC panel? money to be saved there, but at the same time its not exactly a cost saving rig. is it
 
I was thinking about Hybrid 980Ti's in SLI and a AIO Coolers for CPu in my next build but was wondering how they will all mount in the case.

While the 1 double and 2 single rads will easily fit in the case i dont know how adjustable the EVGA hybrids are, I read they are set for Push and cant be turned to pull.
So what are you planning? mount he VGA rads on the top and set the CPU to pull and mount on the front?
Are all those tubes long enough?

I cant be bothered with a custom loop (i have a fear of bricking GPUs after an incident involving a screwdriver and a PCB) and was looking at your strategy vs a OCUK prebuilt rig and it seems like a good way to get 95% on the power for 70% of the money (but lose out allot on the looks).

My other question would be the MoBo, now i know its the best of the best but do you really need all those features and the OC panel? money to be saved there, but at the same time its not exactly a cost saving rig. is it

Push is absolutely fine, I have found in many tests I've done there is little difference between push and pull. My optimal setup is to have CPU rad mounted at top pushing out and GPU coolers blow out and have more fans in than out to create positive air pressure.
This is personal preference and may be harder considering there would be a 360m rad (not 240 but is available in that size). and the 2x 120mm hybrids.
However, this will be less of an issue considering the use of the 3 separate AIO coolers so may not need so many in. That said it's a waste not to extend the Predator to the GPU's and may be cheaper even counting backing plates and extra parts.
I do not want the hassle of a custom loop, did it once and vowed never again as I changed GPU's and was awful. The hybrids eliminate that and give me the best of both worlds.
I need to probably get a massive case so I have more options. Tubes should be plenty long enough.

I've usually gone for mid range motherboards last was a Gigabyte Gaming 7 for my Devils Canyon and I find the pricier ones have more options for overclocking which is something I enjoy doing. Money is still a factor hence why I'm not getting the 5960X as it offers no benefit for gaming (primary use) although it can very very easily be argued I don't need the one I chose for gaming but hey ho.
 
M.2 (and PCI-e drives in general) have massive speeds (something like 2200MB read/1500MB write), but they're also roughly twice as expensive as SATA III per GB.

A regular user probably won't notice the difference between PCI-e storage and SATA III storage when it comes to day to day use... It's just up to you whether you want the newer technology.
 
I was replying to Gadget but I did not feel like quoting his message; sorry for the confusion.
 
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