The EU Migrant Crisis

[subbytna]

For what gain?

TO make the United States of Europe, a reality. No national identity = easier to wrap up in a United States of Europe tag.

 

[scorza]

I'd absolutely welcome those people with open arms and if I had a spare room I'd happily put up a couple of them until they could find something permanent. Our country has world class mental and support systems (for now) that could really help those people develop and become productive members of society. I have a great deal of sympathy for them, and I'm always trying to find ways that I can do something to help them.

I mean, what kind of animal doesn't want to save young boys from rape?

... and when these young boys become older boys are start raping your kids? or your neighbour's kids?

By doing what you suggest all you're doing is importing their rape culture to this country, it's a problem we can do without. Ultimately ending that culture is the goal but change can only come from within those cultures.

 

[twist3d0n3]

TO make the United States of Europe, a reality. No national identity = easier to wrap up in a United States of Europe tag.

Ok, but what would that achieve exactly? The US, as far as I'm concerned is a bit of a mess, so why would we want that here?

 

[subbytna]

The question is how permanent is the move. Will all these refuges go back to their countries when the war is over?

nope, why would they when they get everything handed to them on a plate here.

 

[estebanrey]

nvm

 

[ColdAsIce]

What was the previous username for:

"anything I don't mind" ?

 

[ChroniC]

What I have a real problem with is this.
The Uk has helped, but feel saturated by that help, the problem still exist and there are countries out there as capable and more of helping but aren't.
Why is the Uk being blamed for this?

 

[twist3d0n3]

What I have a real problem with is this.
The Uk has helped, but feel saturated by that help, the problem still exist and there are countries out there as capable and more of helping but aren't.
Why is the Uk being blamed for this?

Because Germany does more!

 

[Deleted member 66701]

Yep. People keep saying let them in as if that will be it, problem solved.

All that will happen is more and more will come.

Why aren't other Arab states doing more to help?

‪Refugees welcomed by:

Saudi... 0
Kuwait... 0
Qatar... 0
Emirates... 0
Bahrain... 0

You're kidding right - why would they want to go to those **** holes?

... and when these young boys become older boys are start raping your kids? or your neighbour's kids?

By doing what you suggest all you're doing is importing their rape culture to this country, it's a problem we can do without. Ultimately ending that culture is the goal but change can only come from within those cultures.

Wow - you're something else.

I'm out of this thread - it's just too depressing with the **** selfish attitudes.

 

[subbytna]

Ok, but what would that achieve exactly? The US, as far as I'm concerned is a bit of a mess, so why would we want that here?

It's not what WE the people want fella, it's what the EU non elected bureaucrats want. You won't have a say in the matter. They want a United Europe, they started it with the Euro currency, yet look how that turned out. stick a frog in boiling water and it'll jump out. Stick a frog in a slowly heating pan of water and it'll happily not notice until it is too late. Same is happening with Europe. Ever so slowly eroding the populations identity with their home country to facilitate assimilation later on.

 

[Sankari]

And wherd did we send them exactly?

Overseas. Some didn't make it; U-Boats sank a couple of ships.

Yet we didn't see thousands of Londoners building tin can boats and sailing over the Irish sea during The Blitz did we?

Firstly, the situation in the UK was not as bad as the situation in these other countries (e.g. Syria). Not even close.

Secondly, we did see the UK sending thousands of children overseas to get them away from the war. Most of them were sent to the USA, Canada, and Australia.

When war did eventually break out, the question of sending British children to Commonwealth countries was brought up in Parliament. It was initially rejected on the grounds of creating panic or spreading defeatism.

Instead the government decided that the evacuation to rural areas of Britain should continue as it was felt that this was adequate.

Nonetheless, it is estimated that, by the end of 1941, some 14,000 British children had been evacuated overseas by private arrangement, over 6,000 to Canada and some 5,000 to the United States.

(Source).

A further 3,127 children were sent overseas by the Children's Overseas Reception Board.

Stick a frog in a slowly heating pan of water and it'll happily not notice until it is too late.

This is not true. The frog will jump out as soon as the water becomes uncomfortable, no matter how long it takes to warm up.

 

[subbytna]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...f-Europe-when-it-holds-the-EU-presidency.html

Look now at what is being said by those in a position to abuse their powers and push for an agenda that is foreign to most in Europe.

 

[scorza]

Firstly, the situation in the UK was not as bad as the situation in these other countries (e.g. Syria). Not even close.

Secondly, we did see the UK sending thousands of children overseas to get them away from the war. Most of them were sent to the USA, Canada, and Australia.



(Source).

A further 3,127 children were sent overseas by the Children's Overseas Reception Board.



This is not true. The frog will jump out as soon as the water becomes uncomfortable, no matter how long it takes to warm up.

How many boat people has Australia taken in? Maybe you should put your own house in order before judging others.

 

[twist3d0n3]

You're kidding right - why would they want to go to those **** holes?

Lol

It's not what WE the people want fella, it's what the EU non elected bureaucrats want. You won't have a say in the matter. They want a United Europe, they started it with the Euro currency, yet look how that turned out. stick a frog in boiling water and it'll jump out. Stick a frog in a slowly heating pan of water and it'll happily not notice until it is too late. Same is happening with Europe. Ever so slowly eroding the populations identity with their home country to facilitate assimilation later on.

Oh, I know it's a bureaucratic project of sorts, which is failing quite spectacularly (yes, I'm a Euroskeptic). I simply don't get the point of it. There doesn't seem to be a logical end-game that is a net improvement on what we had before the EU was a thing...

 

[subbytna]

Overseas. Some didn't make it; U-Boats sank a couple of ships.



Firstly, the situation in the UK was not as bad as the situation in these other countries (e.g. Syria). Not even close.

Secondly, we did see the UK sending thousands of children overseas to get them away from the war. Most of them were sent to the USA, Canada, and Australia.



(Source).

A further 3,127 children were sent overseas by the Children's Overseas Reception Board.



This is not true. The frog will jump out as soon as the water becomes uncomfortable, no matter how long it takes to warm up.

It will be partially cooked by that point. Throw in millions of frogs into a pot and some won't have the strength to get out and will die, keep throwing frogs in the pot and eventually you have a tipping point where less and less will be able to jump out.

 

[scorza]

You're kidding right - why would they want to go to those **** holes?

Yeah, we should welcome people from those **** holes to our country as well

Wow - you're something else.

It's an established sad fact that victims of sexual abuse are more likely to become sexual abusers in later life, and breaking the cycle of sexual abuse is not easy and takes generations. Sadly in this world you're naive at your peril and cynicism is your best suit of armour.

 

[bloodiedathame]

Because Germany does more!

Germany has a population density of 226 people/km^2, the UK is 261, but England (where one assumes most migrants would be placed) was 413 in 2013.

Also Germany has a considerably higher GDP than the UK, 3.73 trillion USD vs 2.678 trillion USD.

Germany is better suited to help deal with the problem, thus it is.

 

[subbytna]

Nonetheless, it is estimated that, by the end of 1941, some 14,000 British children had been evacuated overseas by private arrangement, over 6,000 to Canada and some 5,000 to the United States.

Private arrangement isn't government backed. It is just that, privately arranged.

14k kids is nothing, even back in the 1930/40s that was 3 or 4 big towns worth of kids out of 3 or 4 countries in the UK. Shifting 1 or 2 MILLION kids is something more noticeable though.

 

[twist3d0n3]

Germany has a population density of 226 people/km^2, the UK is 261, but England (where one assumes most migrants would be placed) was 413 in 2013.

Also Germany has a considerably higher GDP than the UK, 3.73 trillion USD vs 2.678 trillion USD.

Germany is better suited to help deal with the problem, thus it is.

Oh I know, I was being sarcastic.

 

[anything I don't mind]

Overseas. Some didn't make it; U-Boats sank a couple of ships.

Firstly, the situation in the UK was not as bad as the situation in these other countries (e.g. Syria). Not even close.

Secondly, we did see the UK sending thousands of children overseas to get them away from the war. Most of them were sent to the USA, Canada, and Australia.

(Source).

A further 3,127 children were sent overseas by the Children's Overseas Reception Board.

This is not true. The frog will jump out as soon as the water becomes uncomfortable, no matter how long it takes to warm up.

Most of the migrants are simply economic migrants. The only ones that are genuine asylum seekers are coming from syria and they are not even a significant percentage of the people. Syria has had economic sanctions. The other countries on the list are just falling apart because of internal problems such as corrupt governments, religious and tribal differences and just general primitive and hostile behaviour. In ww2 there was no economic sanctions on the uk and if there was then there would have been similar migrants crisis.

In my opinion what has also led to increases in migrant activity is improvements in global communications and transportation. A generation or two ago it was unheard for people in these countries to make the journey to the other side of the planet, but now thanks to global communications and improvements in transportation it is within reach. They look at their country and wonder why not make the trip to better country exploiting whatever they can to get there. Somalia for example is no worse or better now than it has been for 100s of years, same with Libya. You could argue it was marginally better under gaddafi but some might disagree.