The EU Migrant Crisis

[Deleted member 66701]

Wait till they bring in the whole extended family too.

They don't account for that either.

Family units would be better - having a family tends to moderate peoples behaviour.

 

[Tephnos]

He is intentionally not saying a number. He isn't letting any more in than he was previously going to. People in this thread have lost the plot.

That can be interpreted both ways, however, which is the concern.

 

[bliss]

We all know what will happen. We will accept a lot more than we originally said we would. Then in about 5 years time it'll come out that this number was fudged and the real number is 10 times higher.

Happened before, will happen again, and again, and again.

 

[Chojin]

Didn't ISIS say they would flood the EU with immigrants last year,well its happened.

Just a matter of time before one of them 'innocent' immigrants blows themselves up in one of our towns/citys.

Chuck them on a boat back to were there from, we don't need/or want them, look after ourselves first and close the borders.

Yes they also released a map of their 5 year plan last year which at the time looked silly, but at this rate looks achievable for them.

This is like the opening of a game of chess between a grandmaster and a child. The pawns are mobilising into position, everything seemingly innocuous, but we know what's going to happen next.

 

[Deleted member 66701]

We all know what will happen. We will accept a lot more than we originally said we would. Then in about 5 years time it'll come out that this number was fudged and the real number is 10 times higher.

Happened before, will happen again, and again, and again.

Yeah, and we'll wonder what all the fuss was about as nothing bad of note happens as a result.

 

[CREATIVE!11]

Family units would be better - having a family tends to moderate peoples behaviour.

Not really.

Bunches of them still went off to fight for isis.

Yeah, and we'll wonder what all the fuss was about as nothing bad of note happens as a result.

Dude come on man, you are kidding right? with all current crapp going on throughout Europe. Can you sit and say that with a straight face?

 

[Nutella33]

I didn't say we put them in council/private houses. Just that we distribute then as evenly as possible.

So 7,500 extra homeless people for each city? In what way would that help any part of the situation?

That's fine.

no its not. And also goes completely against your last post suggesting we had to give them everything so there were no repercussions.

The last thing we want to do is mix them with the racist scum on our council estates.

nice. entirely of the same mindset of a racist just directed at people who live on estates. You really are on the moral high ground arent you?

 

[bliss]

Yeah, and we'll wonder what all the fuss was about as nothing bad of note happens as a result.

Driving down wages is not a negative effect then? Increasing strain on the NHS (I've personally felt this in the past few years) and other services?

As long as you're disconnected from the negatives this can cause everything is all fine I imagine.

 

[Deleted member 66701]

So 7,500 extra homeless people for each city? In what way would that help any part of the situation?

I didn't say homeless. DId you read the rest of the reply?

no its not. And also goes completely against your last post suggesting we had to give them everything so there were no repercussions.

I never said that. I said we manage the repurcussions. I don't believe I suggested any method of managing those repurcussions.

nice. entirely of the same mindset of a racist just directed at people who live on estates. You really are on the moral high ground arent you?

Hook, line....................

Driving down wages is not a negative effect then?

There is barely no evidince that links immigration to wage suppression, and the evidience that does is co-incidental.

Increasing strain on the NHS (I've personally felt this in the past few years) and other services?

The NHS is struggling due to underfunding, mis -allocation of resources and chronic mismanagament - not due to immigration.

As long as you're disconnected from the negatives this can cause everything is all fine I imagine.

My eyes are open to the negatives - I just believe that:-

A: They are overblown, and
B: The can be managed successfully.

As I said earlier - the crisis isn't with capacity (or funding) - it's a political crisis.

 

[chief barker]

I thought there were forum rules against trolling?

 

[robgmun]

I didn't say we put them in council/private houses. Just that we distribute then as evenly as possible.

In what? Cardboard boxes?

 

[teaboy5]

I didn't say homeless. DId you read the rest of the reply?



I never said that. I said we manage the repurcussions. I don't believe I suggested any method of managing those repurcussions.



Hook, line....................

God you do talk some ****e. I hope your going to offer a room or two in your own house. I hardly think any will make it to NI, but if I lived in some of these counties in England I wouldn't want them anywhere near the area I lived in.

Now of course I will be classed as racist for saying that, but I bet most of the people on this forum feel the same.

Are you posting that ****e wearing sandals?

 

[Nutella33]

I didn't say homeless. DId you read the rest of the reply?

Yes and as I stated thats not an option (and against their human rights). Worth noting a completely gutted building (an old barracks for example) is no better than being homeless. Nor saves them from entering the "underworld" of the UK.

I never said that. I said we manage the repurcussions. I don't believe I suggested any method of managing those repurcussions.

yes you did

I'm not suggesting we let in a load of refugees and that's it - no more to be done. Helping refugees requires a co-ordinated approach to integrate them into society, ensure those feared "enclaves" don't spring up, good education for them, job creation, sustainable housing, appropriate policing, adequate healthcare, social safety nets etc - all things required to ensure your imagined "bad" repurcussions don't materialise.

Hook, line....................

Suggesting you are just trolling? Or that I'm a council estate racist? (despite not living on an estate, not being racist and actually being a supporter of immigration)

Sounds like your just trolling now tbf. Nevermind.

 

[Boycey0211]

God you do some ****e. I hope your going to offer a room or two in your own house.

He's already said he would if it were needed, at least twice in this thread and in others too.

I hardly think any will make it to NI, but if I lived in some of these counties in England I wouldn't them anywhere near the area I lived in.

Now of course I will be classed as racist for saying that, but I bet most of the people on this forum feel the same.

No, you're not a racist.

You're prejudiced, you dislike a group of people irrationally based on opinions of others with (as you said yourself) no evidence whatsoever to back it up.

Too many in this thread shouting about being branded a racist without realising what the word means and other alternatives.

Are you posting that ****e wearing sandals?

So you don't want somone calling you something but your quite happy to have a go yourself then?????

 

[Dimi]

Germans taking in 800k, while we're dithering about taking in a few thousand?

What an absolute disgrace this all is, when you've got national media printing drivel to name those as "swarms" and then trying to claim a moral high ground with the news of the little kid found dead on a beach. We've become the laughing stock of the EU, all the others put the UK to shame in how many more they're taking in.

I half wonder if this has anything to do with racism, it's rearing its ugly head once again in this debate. Even on this forum which isn't a surprise to many, disgusting nonetheless though.

 

[Janesy B]

We need to limit the amount of economic migrants from Europe coming here so they can work in car washes and allow more resource to help those that actually need it because their life depends on it.

 

[Deleted member 66701]

In what? Cardboard boxes?

Have you lost the ability to read as well as think?

 

[teaboy5]

He's already said he would if it were needed, at least twice in this thread and in others too.



No, you're not a racist.

You're prejudiced, you dislike a group of people irrationally based on opinions of others with (as you said yourself) no evidence whatsoever to back it up.

Too many in this thread shouting about being branded a racist without realising what the word means and other alternatives.




So you don't want somone calling you something but your quite happy to have a go yourself then?????

Well he needs to talk less about it then and get it arranged somehow.

Yeah I am happy enough to have a go at at him, as I believe he is coming out with half of that crap to troll people into replying.

 

[Deleted member 66701]

God you do talk some ****e. I hope your going to offer a room or two in your own house.

I will help as many as my finances, space and time allows.

Are you posting that ****e wearing sandals?

Stay classy.

Well he needs to talk less about it then and get it arranged somehow.

Working on it - the bureaucracy is a barrier though.

Yeah I am happy enough to have a go at at him

And I'm happy to recieve it.

as I believe he is coming out with half of that crap to troll people into replying.

Just half?

 

[ReltonBFD]

Haha Que the "oh your thinking about long term solutions, and what implications it will have , you must be racist"

Absolute plonkers some people on here .

That boy was sad yes , but it dosent change anything . We can't accept every Tom , dick and Harry . People saying just bring them in are , insane to put it nicely.