Alex Salmond: A second Scottish referendum is inevitible

[Elixir]

Yet today we have a poll saying that 55% of Scots want to live in an independent Scotland. An overwhelming result for us nationalists.

A telephone poll which a lot of no voters would have hung up on due to being fed up of you nationalists going on and on about it despite losing the referendum.

Surely you can see that Yes voters are far more likely to get all excited and answer a survey when they hear the word independence?

 

[lovelyhead]

Your polls said the same thing in the run up to the last referendum, but come the big day you guys bottled it.

Nearly all the polls showed a No lead. I think only two showed a narrow YES lead. There has never been a poll showing 55% for YES. If the referendum was tomorrow and YES won with 55% of the vote that would be an overwhelming victory!!!!

A telephone poll which a lot of no voters would have hung up on due to being fed up of you nationalists going on and on about it despite losing the referendum.

Surely you can see that Yes voters are far more likely to get all excited and answer a survey when they hear the word independence?

Lame. Polls don't go the unionist's way for once and they are all like, uh uh uh.

 

[Five.Stars]

Nearly all the polls showed a No lead. I think only two showed a narrow YES lead. There has never been a poll showing 55% for YES. If the referendum was tomorrow and YES won with 55% of the vote that would be an overwhelming victory!!!!

L O L

You do realise that same 55% overwhelming victory was achieved less than a year ago by No?

If 55% is an overwhelming victory (which it is btw), then why has the issue of independence not been put to bed for at least a generation, other than for the simple fact that clowns like yourself being unable or unwilling to accept the OVERWHELMING democratic will of the Scottish people?

 

[Tefal]

Yet today we have a poll saying that 55% of Scots want to live in an independent Scotland. An overwhelming result for us nationalists.

Of how many people?

What was the polls numbers demographic,regional locations etc?

 

[lovelyhead]

L O L

You do realise that same 55% overwhelming victory was achieved less than a year ago by No?

If 55% is an overwhelming victory (which it is btw), then why has the issue of independence not been put to bed for at least a generation, other than for the simple fact that clowns like yourself being unable or unwilling to accept the OVERWHELMING democratic will of the Scottish people?

Eh you'll find I have accepted last years vote. Not sure what your on about really.

 

[Jokester]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-34139292

What a ****.

 

[lovelyhead]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-34139292

What a ****.

Is the man not allowed to have an opinion? A "****" eh. What are you, 15? Wait, that explains everything.

 

[Macro]

Yet today we have a poll saying that 55% of Scots want to live in an independent Scotland. An overwhelming result for us nationalists.

I have poll saying 75% of people I spoke to in the last 10 minutes say that survey was gibberish - what's your point?

There were similar claims in the lead up to referendum and they proved to be pants. Publishing random non representative polls which are cherry picked to support your point the the square root of nothing much.

Just how arrogant are the nats to think Scots somehow misunderstood the question and didn't understand the longer term highs and lows when given the definitive opportunity to express their will.

 

[Five.Stars]

Eh you'll find I have accepted last years vote. Not sure what your on about really.

You quite clearly have not.

But just to test that out - given the Edinburgh Agreement stated "once in a generation", do you agree that the overwhelming victory for No last year means the issue is put to bed for at least a generation?

Any answer other than yes quite clearly demonstrates that contrary to your claims, you have not and never will accept the democratic will of the people unless it suits your own nationalist agenda.

 

[lovelyhead]

There were similar claims in the lead up to referendum and they proved to be pants. Publishing random non representative polls which are cherry picked to support your point the the square root of nothing much.

Cherry picked? What a load of toss. Every poll conducted since the referendum has shown an increase in support for independence. I could have posted any one of those polls to show that the momentum is with the nationalists. This is the first to show that YES has actually taken the lead. It won't be the last and I will make sure you guys are the first to know! Cheers!

 

[Macro]

Cherry picked? What a load of toss. Every poll conducted since the referendum has shown an increase in support for independence. I could have posted any one of those polls to show that the momentum is with the nationalists. This is the first to show that YES has actually taken the lead. It won't be the last and I will make sure you guys are the first to know! Cheers!

We've already established that cherry picked phone surveys can be used to prove anything you like, how many un published Nats funded surveys are there which gave the opposite answer?

Once again, the arrogance of Nats trying to portray Scots as somehow too stupid to have understood the question and now realising what a bunch of thickies they were.

"Now, let me ask you the question again slowly you poor, wee, stupid people and do try to get the right answer this time, Wee Wreck is running out of time to be your president, and remember, the SNP has your interest at heart you silly people".

 

[Rroff]

Cherry picked? What a load of toss. Every poll conducted since the referendum has shown an increase in support for independence. I could have posted any one of those polls to show that the momentum is with the nationalists. This is the first to show that YES has actually taken the lead. It won't be the last and I will make sure you guys are the first to know! Cheers!

Its deceptive though - pretty much every Scot I know is pro-independence but not many of them would vote for it.

 

[Macro]

Its deceptive though - pretty much every Scot I know is pro-independence but not many of them would vote for it.

That's because the Nats spin the myth that to be a proud Scot you have to be seen to be pro independence, and to be against independence is to be seen as an English lacky (except in the privacy of the voting booth where without the risk of being judged Scots made their feelings plain, something the rabid Nats refuse to accept continuing to suggest Scots were too stupid to see through evil Westminster's mind control).

 

[FoxEye]

Any answer other than yes quite clearly demonstrates that contrary to your claims, you have not and never will accept the democratic will of the people unless it suits your own nationalist agenda.

The will of the people can change a lot quicker than once every 20 years, which is what a generation typically means.

Would you really want to force Scotland to stay in the union if in 5 years time 75% of them wanted out?

How desperate are you to keep the union for the full 20 years if at any time the Scots demnonstrably don't want it?

Is it a case of, "You lost one referendum, we're now your masters for 20 years. Suck it." Seems kind of antagonistic.

 

[Dis86]

The will of the people can change a lot quicker than once every 20 years, which is what a generation typically means.

Would you really want to force Scotland to stay in the union if in 5 years time 75% of them wanted out?

How desperate are you to keep the union for the full 20 years if at any time the Scots demnonstrably don't want it?

Is it a case of, "You lost one referendum, we're now your masters for 20 years. Suck it." Seems kind of antagonistic.

What about the scots who wish to remain in it?

 

[Macro]

Is it a case of, "You lost one referendum, we're now your masters for 20 years. Suck it." Seems kind of antagonistic.

Oh dear, more poor Nats rhetoric, no one is "Scotland's Masters", indeed Scots have more devolution and local independence than any other part of the UK and perhaps unique in the UK have the constitutional arrangement they have voted for only a year ago as the one they want.

I can only imagine to faux outrage of the xenophobic Nats if they had had a vote for independence in the referendum and a year later people were suggesting Scots hadn't really understood the implications and can we ask the question again to deny them independence.

Seriously, suck it up, accept the majority of Scots don't support rabid nationalism and instead maybe you should consider starting respecting the democratic decision of Scots and make a positive contribution to Scotland. Instead we get a rather pathetic, somewhat comical and arrogant "wahh, Wahh, we didn't get our own way, Scots were too confused to vote properly, can we ask again and explain (perhaps more slowly so they understand what is required) why we should have president Salmond to our poor confused minions... errrr countrymen so they don't get the answer wrong again"

 

[FoxEye]

What about the scots who wish to remain in it?

If they become a minority then they must accept that.

If they become a minority in the next five years, then why should they hold the majority to ransom for 15 more years? Especially if for some reason it becomes 60/40 in favour of leaving, or worse.

If the Scots at some future point want to leave, why wouldn't you let them? What possible benefit could there be to keeping a union one party doesn't want?

@Macro: I'm not Scottish. I very well respect their will. If their will changes I would continue to respect it.

You, on the other hand, want to only respect their will while it aligns with your own.

 

[lovelyhead]

We've already established that cherry picked phone surveys can be used to prove anything you like, how many un published Nats funded surveys are there which gave the opposite answer?

Once again, the arrogance of Nats trying to portray Scots as somehow too stupid to have understood the question and now realising what a bunch of thickies they were.

"Now, let me ask you the question again slowly you poor, wee, stupid people and do try to get the right answer this time, Wee Wreck is running out of time to be your president, and remember, the SNP has your interest at heart you silly people".

The survey was commissioned by STV. The rest of your post is just offensive to the now majority of Scots.

 

[Dis86]

If they become a minority then they must accept that.

If they become a minority in the next five years, then why should they hold the majority to ransom for 15 more years? Especially if for some reason it becomes 60/40 in favour of leaving, or worse.

If the Scots at some future point want to leave, why wouldn't you let them? What possible benefit could there be to keeping a union one party doesn't want?

You mean like the minority are accepting it now? Oh wait, they're not. They're whinging for another go already.

Say we do have another! what if they leave then decide oops. Or people change their minds again? Are we going to have to have a vote to let them back in wasting more time and money especially after the cost of splitting the nation?

Do we allow an eternal yo yo of in-out depending on the whims of a nation? The die was cast. The votes made. Accept it, stfu and move on gracefully.

 

[lovelyhead]

If they become a minority then they must accept that.

If they become a minority in the next five years, then why should they hold the majority to ransom for 15 more years? Especially if for some reason it becomes 60/40 in favour of leaving, or worse.

If the Scots at some future point want to leave, why wouldn't you let them? What possible benefit could there be to keeping a union one party doesn't want?

@Macro: I'm not Scottish. I very well respect their will. If their will changes I would continue to respect it.

You, on the other hand, want to only respect their will while it aligns with your own.

You are wasting your time FoxEye trying to have a reasonable conversation with the unionists here. They accuse me of being a cultist and what not, but at the same time they seem to have an inability to read back to themselves the nonsense they are posting.

I just like to come here from time to time and poke them with a stick. It's a good laugh and so easy.