Chuckle...
Naked Rambler Jailed
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Chuckle...
Society makes "us" who we are. There's plenty of places on earth where the big society has no reach. You are free to leave at your convenience, just don't expect running water, medical care and protection from boogiemen.
This guy wants to be naked, he can do so in his own time. Wandering down the street he is on public time. Just the way I like to have a beer and sing, I don't (often) stagger down the road in broad daylight in a drunken state blasting out some Queen ballard and swearing at kiddies. It's quite simple and it isn't impinging upon "freedoms"
I've not read the whole thread and I'm sure it has been mentioned by someone. Kids really won't care less about a naked man or woman walking around. They don't sexualise everything. It's only us adults who do that and add in all the drama. This chap doesn't come across as someone who is out to get sexual gratification from what he is doing it's everyone else that is thinking it is this.
If he wants to walk naked so what.
P.S. I am not a child anime weirdo!
It's not the same.
That kid has already been taught about wearing clothes and doesn't regularly see adult genitals. Your idea of a kid not caring about a naked dude would be applicable if the kid itself was never taught to wear clothes and had grown up in a nudist colony or something. Ie in tribal days etc.
I don't want my (hypothetical) 8 year old daughter to suddenly see her first human penis on the way to the park, she will probably pretend that she didn't see anything for my sake, but this shouldn't be confused with not caring about it. The only way the parent and the kid "wouldn't care" is if their child had been seeing naked adults regularly since birth.
When a kid sees something they've never seen before surely they'd be like "WTF" and certainly not "meh" ??? Any normal child would think "WTF" upon their first exposure to a penis. The only way they'd think "meh" is if they'd been regularly exposed to penis.
I mean I was shocked and and started physically shaking when I saw my first vagina! It was horrifying, partly because there was half a carrot sticking out from it. I wouldn't want any child to be potentially shocked like that!
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The guy is a total muppet, no one wants to see that ****!!!
If that's your thing and you want to be naked there are places you can do that.
I'm no prude but don't want to see everyone's junk when I'm walking down the street, it ain't a pretty site in most cases
If that's your thing and you want to be naked there are places you can do that.
I'm no prude but don't want to see everyone's junk when I'm walking down the street, it ain't a pretty site in most cases
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I honestly wouldn't be offended, i'd be startled and probably take a look at his junk to see how it compares and move on with my life with a bizarre memory to take from it.
I think the vast majority of adult males would take this approach, no?
I think the vast majority of adult males would take this approach, no?
wut
As a society I think we need to sort out upbringings like yours, rather than jailing someone walking around without artificial skin, which is essentially what clothes are.
There are too many that scream "Won't somebody think of the children", without realising that their getting worked up is the cause of most of the problems.
I have the same disdain for "swear words". Its only the big scene some make about the use of a word that make it what it is. It's all about the intent, rather than the actual word... Saying sarcastically "yeah that's great" can be a far greater put down (and/or damaging) than "**** off", in the same way someone walking around naked without any sexual intent is certainly not worse than someone acting in a very sexual way with clothing on.
Just go to beaches in Europe and see what more enlightened societies do about nudity.
100 years ago they said that about ankles...
I hope you don't complain about people wearing hijabs and burkas either!
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100 years ago they said that about ankles...
I hope you don't complain about people wearing hijabs and burkas either!
Nope I wouldn't complain about people wearing hijabs and burkas either!
But would if some dude has his junk in my face
or woman for that matter, have you seen the mess they make?Its just not nice
And naked or not that guy is a Muppet.
Why are you kneeling down in front of him?! 
I can understand the argument of not allowing naked people into shops and on public transport, much like bare feet and shirtlessness is generally banned in shops and public transport (hygiene reasons generally). I don't believe that can be used as an argument for banning walking down the street, or in the countryside naked though.
I can understand the argument of not allowing naked people into shops and on public transport, much like bare feet and shirtlessness is generally banned in shops and public transport (hygiene reasons generally). I don't believe that can be used as an argument for banning walking down the street, or in the countryside naked though.
Upbringings like mine? What do you know about my upbringing apart from the fact my parents did a damn good job of not exposing me to your knob?
What an amazing statement to make. My upbringing was bad because my parents didn't give me the chance to see your knob on a beach somewhere in Europe? Hahahahahahahahahahaha.
It's one thing to want to walk around naked, but saying children should be bought up to actively seek naked adults is utterly shocking.
Nice to see you want to sort out the guy who thinks a small children should not be shocked into seeing penis. The "as a society" bit is absolute gold. How about you sort out people bringing up chavs first?
I think there are far more "upbringings" to be sorted out than one dude who thinks children shouldn't be shocked into seeing their first grown penis.
I just think it's ****ed up to want to shock children into seeing grown penises. Your beach in Europe is not the same as a little girl seeing a huge hairy **** on her walk to the park. There's an expectation of nudity in your example. The two scenarios are completely incompatible and incomparable.
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But would if some dude has his junk in my face
Well if its in your face i think you need to get off your knees
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The upbringing that meant seeing a part of a human body made you shake in terror. That's a VERY sheltered/worrying part of your upbringing there IMO.
You appear to have missed the point of the entire post though, which was that the only reason a child (or anyone for that matter) is "shocked" at seeing a naked part of human anatomy is the fact they are conditioned into it. Why are they not shocked when seeing a human toe or a flabby belly? Many are pretty disgusting TBH and you see them all the time. It's all about being conditioned into it.
We, as a society, need to separate this incessant mix up of nudity and sex. Just because you see a pair of female boobs doesn't mean sex is round the corner (in the same way seeing a pair of male boobs is), just because we see a penis doesn't mean there's going to be an orgy in the next few minutes.
That's where my next post came in, we have a limit in the UK of acceptable nudity, that's different to the limit in say Saudi Arabia, or the limit in the rest of northern and western Europe. Personally I think the attitude of continental Europe is far more healthy than we have here, or in many other parts of the world.
That leads on to another example of just how ridiculous our stance on nudity is (as a society). Watch TV or films: According to censors it is far more acceptable for a small child to see someone beating another person up, other physical and verbal assault, or even murder than it is for them to see a female boob in a shower advert*, or a naked bum. Now that is a seriously weird situation for society to be in. At least we aren't like the US, where they have an even more puritanical view of violence and nudity!
As someone that grew up in a very liberal household when it came to nudity I just find it odd. But then that's probably why I see the western european culture on nudity as a more sensible one than the British one.
*Using that example because it's fairly common in north/western european TV adverts for shampoo adverts to show a bit of boob, rather than forcing women into weird contorted shapes to hide their "modesty" in the UK.
So your parents let you look at their vagina and penis when you were a child? To me that's worrying.
The only reason I was shocked is because I'd never seen a Vagina before I was 8, let alone knew you can fit the fat end of a carrot in it. I find it weird that you find it worrying that I'd never seen a vagina before my 8th birthday and taught that you can put things inside your vagina.
The only way I would't be shocked is if I'd been exposed to Vaginas in my childhood and had been taught by my mother/father that girls put things like carrots in their vaginas.
Personally I'm exceedingly glad I wasn't explicitly exposed to grown vaginas and penis in my childhood.
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Changing in the same changing room/room? It's a fairly common thing many children do. You can sexualise it if you really want but the reality is it's just a family changing in the same room.
EDIT: Actually thats a question... Do people still take their kids into the opposite sex changing rooms any more? It used to be fairly common for mums to take their young (say 5 years old) son into the women changing rooms when going swimming, or dads their young daughters. I'm assuming it's not any more though?!
EDIT: Actually thats a question... Do people still take their kids into the opposite sex changing rooms any more? It used to be fairly common for mums to take their young (say 5 years old) son into the women changing rooms when going swimming, or dads their young daughters. I'm assuming it's not any more though?!
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But that's expectation again.
Surely your kids would know and expect you're going to pull out your todger out on them, again. Just like a tribal kid would expect to see lots of boobs hanging about.
It would still be shocking if you'd just randomly took your kids swimming one day and pull out your **** in front of them when they weren't expecting it.
Also, a shared changing room is just a shared changing room. Typically there would still be modesty and there would still be towels involved. Doesn't automatically mean there's some kind of family genital exploration game going on in there. Bizzare lol.
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I think we are talking cross purposes here. You state that a child seeing their parent naked is odd, so I provided an example of why it's not odd, and fairly common. I get the impression that this sort of thing wasn't part of your childhood?
You then start talking about people pulling out penises in front of people. How about a child being taught that nudity is not a sin and that a penis is a penis. Your posts seem to project this image of someone yanking down their trousers/flashing people, that's just not what the naked rambler and what he stands for is about. His whole argument (and mine to an extent) is about seeing nudity as nothing more than not wearing clothes, rather than conscious acts of "aggression"*.
Seeing a penis should not be shocking, in the same way seeing a female pair of boobs should not be any more shocking than seeing a topless man. Odd and out of place maybe, but I very much doubt a child would see it as shocking unless they were conditioned to see it as shocking.
*The way you write it just sounds aggressive to me - "pull down in front" etc.
You then start talking about people pulling out penises in front of people. How about a child being taught that nudity is not a sin and that a penis is a penis. Your posts seem to project this image of someone yanking down their trousers/flashing people, that's just not what the naked rambler and what he stands for is about. His whole argument (and mine to an extent) is about seeing nudity as nothing more than not wearing clothes, rather than conscious acts of "aggression"*.
Seeing a penis should not be shocking, in the same way seeing a female pair of boobs should not be any more shocking than seeing a topless man. Odd and out of place maybe, but I very much doubt a child would see it as shocking unless they were conditioned to see it as shocking.
*The way you write it just sounds aggressive to me - "pull down in front" etc.
No. That's not the reason why a kid would find it shocking. It's shocking because it's the first time they've ever seen a grown matured sex organ. If you're living in an ancient tribal society you're going to be rolling around naked with your children FROM BIRTH, therefore the shock will never happen.
Why do you believe the only reason a kid can find something shocking is that they've been conditioned into finding it shocking?
If a child sees a murder scene will they not be shocked? I'm sure their parents don't condition their children into finding murder scene's shocking do they???
For a child to be truly not shocked at the sight of a grown human's sex organs, they would have to be seeing these things from birth, like in tribal society.
It's impossible to do this in this society unless your parents have been showing you their sex organs since you were a baby. You cannot do it if the child's been bought up even for 3 years in a clothed society because that automatically means there will be a FIRST TIME they will see a grown man's penis.
This is why it's a terrible idea for a little girl to see a grown man's penis on her walk to the park! You either play with your children naked from birth and they'll become accustomed to your penis, like they did when everyone was naked in tribal days, or they'll learn themselves when they're old enough to understand. What you cant do is expose random kids who've never seen a penis or expect to see a penis, to said matured sex organ.
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