DUAL GPU GREATNESS & 16GB RAM!!

UTmaniac · 4 Sep 2015 at 10:02

String said:
The 16GB memory part is misleading. That card can never use more than 8GB.

Might as well sellotape an 8GB stick of RAM on it and call it a total of 24GB memory.

But doesn't DX12 have a way that game developers can make the memory on dual GPU systems be accessed independently, so in this case 16GB would be available, rather than 8GB in DX11 and lower?

fs123 · 4 Sep 2015 at 10:04

The power usage should be about 800-850W if they are recommending a 1000W psu. TitanX SLI take about 750-800W for comparison.

The price is pretty good considering you would get very good 4K performance for a price lower than a TitanX and comparable to a 980TI OC.

edit: didn't see that you get a Razor Ouroboros mouse worth about £100 too. Great deal which makes the card about the same price as a 980TI.

arc@css · 4 Sep 2015 at 10:04

UTmaniac said:
But doesn't DX12 have a way that game developers can make the memory on dual GPU systems be accessed independently, so in this case 16GB would be available, rather than 8GB in DX11 and lower?

I think so, though ultimately I believe it's down to the developer.

jupiter_man · 4 Sep 2015 at 10:05

OMG it finally arrives! I thought they will skip this and work on FuryX2 instead

Holy mama, it is as thick as a brick

4x 8pin + 1000w OMG...

jupiter_man · 4 Sep 2015 at 10:07

Hi Gibbo

Any news on Furyx2 yet?

fs123 · 4 Sep 2015 at 10:15

jupiter_man said:
Hi Gibbo

Any news on Furyx2 yet?

I think a FuryX2 would have to be 8Gb HBM to be worth it for 4K gaming, so they will probably release end of the year if they are waiting for HBM2.

Killer7xx · 4 Sep 2015 at 10:27

fs123 said:
I think a FuryX2 would have to be 8Gb HBM to be worth it for 4K gaming, so they will probably release end of the year if they are waiting for HBM2.

I think it'll be coming October-November but as a 2x 4GB HBM card.

Gerard · 4 Sep 2015 at 10:34

String said:
The 16GB memory part is misleading. That card can never use more than 8GB.

Might as well sellotape an 8GB stick of RAM on it and call it a total of 24GB memory.

It really isn't misleading at all, physically the card DOES have 16 gigs of vram on it. Its upto the end user to know that sli or crossfire on a single card implementation ends up with the ram being mirrored and its essentially half what the box states. And that's what reviews etc are for

andybird123 · 4 Sep 2015 at 10:56

UTmaniac said:
But doesn't DX12 have a way that game developers can make the memory on dual GPU systems be accessed independently, so in this case 16GB would be available, rather than 8GB in DX11 and lower?

Yes to the first part but no to the second part. Two GPU's rendering more or less the same scene or parts thereof will still need access to mostly the same textures. There might be some savings but it will be nowhere near an effective doubling of useable vram.

pgi947 · 4 Sep 2015 at 11:00

UTmaniac said:
But doesn't DX12 have a way that game developers can make the memory on dual GPU systems be accessed independently, so in this case 16GB would be available, rather than 8GB in DX11 and lower?

They can, but of we're being realistic about it, by the time such an approach becomes common place this card will be long obsolete.

fs123 · 4 Sep 2015 at 11:01

So what's with the Vram argument? Is 8Gb not enough now?
Hilarious.

andybird123 · 4 Sep 2015 at 11:02

fs123 said:
So what's with the Vram argument? Is 8Gb not enough now?
Hilarious.

No, the headline advertising for this card is saying its a 16GB card.
Pretty basic reading skills.

fs123 · 4 Sep 2015 at 11:05

andybird123 said:
No, the headline advertising for this card is saying its a 16GB card.
Pretty basic reading skills.

Anyone on this board and whoever is going to spend that much should know what this card is. It's only misleading to the non-enthuasiasts.

bru · 4 Sep 2015 at 11:08

A bit surprised they have only used the 390 and not the 390x.
Maybe AMD didn't allow them too because it might of shown up the FuryX2 in certain situations lol.

fs123 · 4 Sep 2015 at 11:10

Here's a review of the older Powerdevil 13 290X..The power consumption is actually not bad at all.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/powercolor_radeon_290x_295x2_devil13_review,10.html

Power Consumption

System in IDLE = 139W
System Wattage with GPU in FULL Stress = 708W
Difference (GPU load) = 569W
Add average IDLE wattage ~20W
Subjective obtained GPU power consumption = ~ 589 Watts

So this new 390x2 should use less than that.

Dirk Diggler · 4 Sep 2015 at 11:13

Gerard said:
It really isn't misleading at all, physically the card DOES have 16 gigs of vram on it. Its upto the end user to know that sli or crossfire on a single card implementation ends up with the ram being mirrored and its essentially half what the box states. And that's what reviews etc are for

It's misleading for sure. Like I say, if you Selloptape an 8GB stick of RAM onto it would "physically have 24 gigs of RAM..." it would be up to the end user to see the sellotape.

andybird123 · 4 Sep 2015 at 11:17

fs123 said:
Anyone on this board and whoever is going to spend that much should know what this card is. It's only misleading to the non-enthuasiasts.

You have no idea how often people come on and ask that very question or say that they bought an X2 card "because it has double the ram".
They should know better, but they don't always.

Gerard · 4 Sep 2015 at 11:18

String said:
It's misleading for sure. Like I say, if you Selloptape an 8GB stick of RAM onto it would "physically have 24 gigs of RAM..." it would be up to the end user to see the sellotape.

As said anyone that's gonna buy this card would already know about the mirroring done in single card crossfire configs. The card does have 16 gigs onboard so its advertised correctly.

bru · 4 Sep 2015 at 11:18

More or less every dual GPU card has been marketed this way, just be thankful that they don't add the clock speeds together like some not so reputable CPU resellers do.

TheRealDeal · 4 Sep 2015 at 11:18

Every dual gpu from either company has been marketed this way so this is nothing new. People on here will moan about anything these days.

bru said:
More or less every dual GPU card has been marketed this way, just be thankful that they don't add the clock speeds together like some not so reputable CPU resellers do.

Beat to it.

andybird123 said:
You have no idea how often people come on and ask that very question or say that they bought an X2 card "because it has double the ram".
They should know better, but they don't always.

Yea i had to tell a guy rocking 2 gtx690's that he never had 8gb of usable vram a few months back. This guy has been gaming on PC's for a good 15-20 years so should know better. It's up to the end user to do there research before buying and to me if they get burned it's there own fault. How hard is it to research these days or come to a place like this and ask people some questions.

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