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Alex Salmond: A second Scottish referendum is inevitible
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You have my vote there!
Stop it - you're running the trolls hyperbole with your common sense and use of facts...
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It's so much fun though! It is so easy to whip the unionists up into a frenzy! One poll showing the nationalists turning the tide and they are all like:
You should see the laugh we are having at this thread on the other forum! Showing the unionists true colours and them being completely in denial. Hilarious!
Scots given the chance to vote on independence, billed as a once in a generation or lifetime event by Wee Wreck, Scots vote resoundingly "no" to leaving the union, nationalists whine that somehow Scots didn't understand the question or were too stupid to cope with the implications that it was a once in a generation decision, nat troll gets made to look foolish in a forum when their rhetoric is shredded as delusional propaganda and wishful thinking, nats then pretend they weren't serious after all and are just having a laugh. Wings over Scotland members shuffle off looking mildly embarrassed at having made their campaign look a bit silly.
Meanwhile hilarity ensues on OCUK as people queue up to poke the pet rabid nat.
Meanwhile hilarity ensues on OCUK as people queue up to poke the pet rabid nat.
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No, they're just getting fed up with the nonsense some nationalists are coming up with.
IIRC when the vote was no in the actual referendum it was "well it wasn't by a big margin" when the percentages were 55/45 against, now a poll has said it's the other way it's a huge margin.
Personally I'm starting to think that if there is another referendum in the next 10 years or so the cost of it should come out of the Scottish Parliament's budget as everyone was told it was a once in a generation/once in a lifetime opportunity by the Yes campaign, but once they didn't get the result they wanted it became a "ooh things have changed in the last year we want another one".
IIRC the Scottish Parliament is not doing that well with it's devolved matters so why the hell some people think that the SNP are wonderful is beyond me.
IIRC when the vote was no in the actual referendum it was "well it wasn't by a big margin" when the percentages were 55/45 against, now a poll has said it's the other way it's a huge margin.
Personally I'm starting to think that if there is another referendum in the next 10 years or so the cost of it should come out of the Scottish Parliament's budget as everyone was told it was a once in a generation/once in a lifetime opportunity by the Yes campaign, but once they didn't get the result they wanted it became a "ooh things have changed in the last year we want another one".
IIRC the Scottish Parliament is not doing that well with it's devolved matters so why the hell some people think that the SNP are wonderful is beyond me.
hold on a minute braveheart, the No Vote was 55% and the nationalists were saying it was close, so how does 55% to Yes in a flash poll suddenly represent an overwhelming majority. Are you saying that the NO camp had an overwhelming majority in the beginning or are you just pulling crap out of your arse like Salmond likes to do ?
Yes that certainly sounds very hilarious!
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Ha ha. You took the bait! I thought no one was going to!
It was the unionists that were claiming that 55% was an overwhelming victory!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...land-overwhelmingly-rejects-independence.html
Scots given the chance to vote on independence, billed as a once in a generation or lifetime event by Wee Wreck, Scots vote resoundingly "no" to leaving the union, nationalists whine that somehow Scots didn't understand the question or were too stupid to cope with the implications that it was a once in a generation decision, nat troll gets made to look foolish in a forum when their rhetoric is shredded as delusional propaganda and wishful thinking, nats then pretend they weren't serious after all and are just having a laugh. Wings over Scotland members shuffle off looking mildly embarrassed at having made their campaign look a bit silly.
Meanwhile hilarity ensues on OCUK as people queue up to poke the pet rabid nat.
You unionists live in your own wee unionist circle jerk bubble and have no idea what is actually going on in Scotland. Let me enlighten you:
SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 1, 2014
http://scotgoespop.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/scotland-swings-behind-independence-by.html
Should Scotland be an independent country?
Yes 52% (+7)
No 48% (-7)
FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 7, 2014
http://scotgoespop.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/snp-lead-by-18-in-new-scot-goes-pop.html
Imagine that Scotland voted to stay in the EU, but was outvoted by the rest of the UK choosing to leave. In those circumstances, would a second Scottish independence referendum be justified, so that Scotland wasn’t forced out of the EU against its will?
Yes, it would be justified : 45%
No, we should accept the UK-wide result : 41%
SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 16, 2014
http://scotgoespop.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/cameron-all-over-narrative-falls-apart.html
Total who want another independence referendum : 60%
Total who don't want another independence referendum : 28%
Total who want another independence referendum within ten years : 48%
Total who don't want another independence referendum within ten years : 40%
FRIDAY, DECEMBER 12, 2014
http://scotgoespop.blogspot.co.uk/2014/12/scotland-swings-decisively-behind-snp.html
Should Scotland be an independent country?
Yes 48%
No 45%
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 23, 2014
http://scotgoespop.blogspot.co.uk/2014/12/support-for-independence-reaches-50-for.html
Imagine there were another referendum on Scottish independence held today. How would you vote if the question were ‘Should Scotland be an independent country?'
Yes 50% (+3)
No 50% (-3)
MONDAY, FEBRUARY 2, 2015
http://scotgoespop.blogspot.co.uk/2015/02/snp-power-to-record-21-lead-in-jaw.html
Should Scotland be an independent country?
Yes 49% (+1)
No 44% (-1)
With Don't Knows removed, that works out as...
Yes 52% (n/c)
No 48% (n/c)
FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 20, 2015
http://scotgoespop.blogspot.co.uk/2015/02/scottish-voters-pulverise-camerons-its.html
Want another independence referendum within the next ten years?
Yes 59%
No 41%
Want another independence referendum at some point?
Yes 80%
No 20%
THURSDAY, MARCH 19, 2015
http://scotgoespop.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/snp-surge-to-21-lead-in-super-second.html
Should Scotland be an independent country?
Yes 50.9% (+3.2)
No 49.1% (-3.2)
SATURDAY, MAY 2, 2015
http://scotgoespop.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/daily-record-caught-misleading-its.html
If there was another referendum on Scottish independence tomorrow and in the referendum voters will again be asked, "Should Scotland be an independent country?", do you think you would vote 'yes' or 'no'? (Don't Knows excluded)
Yes 49.4%
No 50.6%
If there was to be another referendum on Scottish independence when, if at all, do you think this referendum should take place?
Should be another referendum at some point : 80.4%
Should NOT be another referendum at some point : 19.6%
Another referendum should take place within ten years : 58.6%
Another referendum should NOT take place within ten years : 41.4%
SUNDAY, MAY 10, 2015
http://scotgoespop.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/yougov-poll-finds-big-increase-in.html
Respondents in Scotland only :
Support independence: 52%
Oppose independence: 43%
WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 2, 2015
http://scotgoespop.blogspot.co.uk/2015/09/game-changing-ipsos-mori-poll-suggests.html
Should Scotland be an independent country?
Yes 53%
No 44%
So you see this thread is just a unionist bubble. Being generous it would seem there is a 50/50 split between people in Scotland who want independence and those who don't. This thread is more like a 95/5 split (95% being unionists obviously). Hence the unionist circle jerk that is taking place.
Clearly the momentum is with the YES side and this will only continue to grow what with many of the elderly NO voters dying off and younger more likely to vote YES people becoming eligible to vote. In less than a year we have increased support for YES by about 5%.
We are never going away! GIUY!!!
If another referendum comes up I'll switch from yes to no.
I voted on it based on a once in a lifetime referendum, not something we do again every few years until the SNP get the answer they want. It shows absolutely no respect for the democratic outcome of any such referendum.
I voted on it based on a once in a lifetime referendum, not something we do again every few years until the SNP get the answer they want. It shows absolutely no respect for the democratic outcome of any such referendum.
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Well you are in the minority of Scots who don't want another referendum within 10 years.
Then why the hell didn't Salmond and co say "if we don't get the result we want, we'll do this every few years" in the run up to the referendum?
Is it because they knew it would show their true colours and would likely put off a heck of a lot of investment into Scotland.
From memory Salmond and the rest of the Yes campaign leaders made a big thing about it being a once in a generation thing, and that it wouldn't turn into a "neverendum" where they'd be doing it every few years.
I strongly suspect that various nationalist leaders never even considered that they'd get a no vote, in much the same way they seemed completely incapable of taking into account that an independent Scotland would need the agreement of a lot of (now) external parties to do a lot of what they were promising, many of whom would have no longer had any reason to try and keep the Scottish people happy if it made the rest of the UK population unhappy or at a disadvantage.
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Why do you care so much? Surely if there was another referendum you would win right. Right?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_Scottish_independence_referendum,_2014#2014
Notice how all of the polls near the referendum were all skewed towards the side of Yes? This was likely due to the "shy tory" factor, and it is increasing as the No side stop caring and get back to their normal lives while the Yes side fail to accept the result and keep on crying.
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So what. Ever since then the polls have been favoring the nationalists. The opposite of what happened before the referendum. No prizes for guessing why that is!
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The polls were "favouring" the nationalists before the referendum, as in they were showing Yes to have more support than it actually had.
The reason it's increasing is exactly what I said, No voters who once cared enough to answer a survey no longer do, while Yes voters still love to get all excited about it. Shame I don't get a prize though.
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What a load of nonsense. The Yes side only had 2 polls saying they were in the lead vs 75 polls showing NO in the lead in 2014. Now nearly all the polls since the referendum show YES in the lead.
Your claim that NO voters are not participating in these polls is baseless. Where is your evidence to support this claim?
More weasel words from the unionists!
At no point have I said that polls were all saying Yes was in the lead just before the referendum, I'm saying that they all incorrectly indicated more support on the Yes side than there actually was.
My claim isn't baseless, it's common sense. Which is probably why you aren't understanding it.
Here's a more step-by-step explanation for you:
http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/scotland-independence-referendum-polls-bad/
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But the delusional nationalists have been telling us for years that the majority of Scots wanted rid of the union, hence the referendum. Once put to the test in a democratic way, despite the rabid scare tactics of nats that if you didn't vote for independence you're not a proper Scot and Wee Wrecks demands this was a once in a generation opportunity the vast majority of Scotland spoke and showed the world the nationalists were talking twaddle. We now have our own pet nat troll running around whining that Scots got the answer wrong and should be made to answer it again every year or two until they get the answer right so the political elite can feather their nests and grab more power inspite of the Scottish electorate giving a clear mandate for the opoosite.
Such little respect for Scots from the Wings over Scotland brigade who clearly care little about what the people of Scotland have voted for and more about what xenophobia their self serving campaign can brew up..
For a referendum of this magnitude I think a generation is a pretty sensible timescale to allow people to judge things in perspective without the short terms swings of the political and economic lifecycle.
Such little respect for Scots from the Wings over Scotland brigade who clearly care little about what the people of Scotland have voted for and more about what xenophobia their self serving campaign can brew up..
For a referendum of this magnitude I think a generation is a pretty sensible timescale to allow people to judge things in perspective without the short terms swings of the political and economic lifecycle.
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Again, utter tosh. Out of 69 polls conducted in 2014, only 4 showed the YES campaign with more than 45% of the vote. 3 out of those 4 polls were within the standard 3% margin of error and the fourth poll was 1% outside of that margin of error.
65 out of those 69 polls showed the YES campaign at 45% or less. So what you are trying to argue is actually the complete opposite to reality.
The polls close to the end of the referendum were actually pretty accurate in regard to the final result for YES.
More unionist hard of thinking going on!
Edit. I see I've been given back my old username. Pity, I liked the old one!
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