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R9 Nano - AMD says that it has too few review samples for the press.

Well they went down the path of HBM to keep them competitive but they are now paying the price of going with bleeding technology and can't get any stock out to retailers.

No money, ineffective leadership, poor vision and seemingly incapable of delivering competitive products. Zen needs to be something special otherwise AMD are going the way of Woolworths IMO.
 
I think my Fury Tri-x is a brilliant card but that's down to Sapphire not AMD, If only AMD had allowed Sapphire to do full core Tri-X's, I know that's going a bit off topic but people are talking about the bad marketing and Fiji has been nothing but. And that is a real shame, It may not be the fastest card on the market but a well designed well priced full Fiji card could have sold by the bucket load. But instead they've drip fed us sub par quality Fury X's and a lot of promises.

The Nano could be good but I doubt it and seeing people like Guru3d getting a Nano to test and seeing how they test on an open bench just makes it look like AMD are choosing who does get one very carefully.
I think it's going to have average levels of performance. That's not based on any knowledge of the tech etc just based on my gut and from looking at all the variables. Open bench results will look quite different from what they do once the card is inside a machine and there's a good chance it will only give 290/970 performance levels at 1080p and up to 980/390x levels at 4k if we are lucky.

This card is targetted at mini ITX builders so once it is inside such a small space that heat will rise and the speeds will throttle. They should have designed it into a blower so it pushes some of the heat out the back. It's sad to see more dodgy news regarding the AMD camp.
 
TR is getting one:

http://techreport.com/news/28971/wanted-for-review-amd-radeon-r9-nano?post=935038#935038

I get the feeling though the whole Fury release is going to be limited in release - by the time they get enough made,another six months or so later,the first 16nm cards will start to trickle through anyway.

It makes me wonder whether it was meant to be released earlier but got delayed due to production problems,so it seems to be a bit of a balls up release now.

Edit!!

Guru3D have a sample:

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-radeon-r9-nano-in-da-house-(in-house-photos).html
 
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JediFragger said:
Tonga was heavily rumoured to be the first HBM chip but got delayed and re-tooled for GDDR5. Hence Fiji being Tonga XXL :)
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The R9 285 and R9 380 use cut down chips too. My mates HD7850(which was around £100) is going kaput and it seems,not much has moved on in two years under £200 in terms of performance,and we still probably have another year at least of 28NM under £200! :(
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
we still probably have another year at least of 28NM under £200! :(
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Only if both AMD's and nV's next gen GPUs are all significantly delayed, surely? Which would be pretty unlikely, I would have thought.

In 12 months time we should be on 14/16nm. Anything less would be an epic fail.

Isn't AMD's next gen reportedly all new from top to bottom? No rehashes, I mean, refreshes? :p
 
FoxEye said:
Only if both AMD's and nV's next gen GPUs are all significantly delayed, surely? Which would be pretty unlikely, I would have thought.

In 12 months time we should be on 14/16nm. Anything less would be an epic fail.

Isn't AMD's next gen reportedly all new from top to bottom? No rehashes, I mean, refreshes? :p
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I hope so,as I am still on a GTX660. The GTX960 I bought as a stop gap died in a day and I am back to using the old card.Also,I don't want to spend £250 on a stop-gap GTX970(R9 390 is out as I have a mini-ITX system).
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
I hope so,as I am still on a GTX660. The GTX960 I bought as a stop gap died in a day and I am back to using the old card.Also,I don't want to spend £250 on a stop-gap GTX970(R9 390 is out as I have a mini-ITX system).
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I'm in the same place. Don't want a 970 or 390.

So I've got either a 7850 or 280 to tide me over (the other will be sold on MM here). Which to keep, which to sell :p
 
It's gotta be something to do with the HBM production or integration onto the interposer of the various parts which is causing this poor supply.

I get the idea they are just powering through it and taking the blows so they can have the bugs ironed out for the next gen.

Doesn't Hynix construct the GPU package chip/interposer/hbm?Seems to be they are at the mercy of that unless fiji cors really are a complete ******* to make.
 
I said yesterday that it seems like AMD have no real intention of selling Fiji in any great number, whether it's down to yields, HBM supply, complications with putting it together (interposer?) or just the fact that manufacturing it all is so damn expensive that they aren't making money on it, who knows.

It's been more of a vanity project than an actual product.
 
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TPU won't be receiving a review sample either, and when they asked Roy@AMD he said "reviews need to be fair". Basically, the only people getting Nano samples are those that will shed a positive light on their product.
 
mmj_uk said:
I said yesterday that it seems like AMD have no real intention of selling Fiji in any great number, whether it's down to yields, HBM supply, complications with putting it together (interposer?) or just the fact that manufacturing it all is so damn expensive that they aren't making money on it, who knows.

It's been more of a vanity project than an actual product.
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We don't agree to often but i am having similar thoughts at the moment. This has been a strange launch to say the least.
 
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