I think you are looking at around £200 for genuine Cam and Aux belt kits, about £150 for the dephaser and I'm not sure on the waterpump, say £40 and then another £10 for coolant. So that is £400 on parts. You then have labour charges on top of that.
182 Trophy - Price check
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The 3 years may be advised by specialists, but I haven't seen any reference that Renault themselves revised the time. That being said, if you do anything approaching average mileage in the car you would need to change the Aux belt in 3 years anyway. The water pump on mine was found to be leaking the last time the belts were changed, so it was replaced at that time.
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To the Op, if you are being offered the Trophy for somewhere around £3000 - £3750 given the work it needs its probably a pretty good deal. If you are being asked much more than that it's probably not much of a deal and you'd be as well buying a sorted one in the first place. There was recently a poorish condition Trophy for sale near me on Autotrader for £3750.
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As mentioned check when the belts were last done. Aux belt is every 36k or 3 years (whichever is sooner), cambelt is every 72k or every 5 years (whichever is sooner). Always get the aux belt done with cambelt. Don't let anyone else do it but a specialist - Diamond Motors is your closest place in Nottingham and Mick is a good lad.
Waterpump and dephaser aren't always necessary, dephaser only needs doing if sounds like it's whining.
Get the dampers refurbed properly, it's what makes the car and buying second hand you won't know what condition they'll be in. You wouldn't buy them new because they're over a grand at least for a pair.
Pilot sport 3's I think you're correct on price, MOT you're being conned though.
Brakes are doable by yourself as is oil change, check what spark plugs he changed them with - if they're Bosch then you'll need to take them out and put in the correct NGK ones, otherwise it won't rev properly.
ClioSport.net is a wealth of info as is the dedicated thread on here. Great little motors and the Trophy is the one to own if looked after and you get a good price.
Waterpump and dephaser aren't always necessary, dephaser only needs doing if sounds like it's whining.
Get the dampers refurbed properly, it's what makes the car and buying second hand you won't know what condition they'll be in. You wouldn't buy them new because they're over a grand at least for a pair.
Pilot sport 3's I think you're correct on price, MOT you're being conned though.
Brakes are doable by yourself as is oil change, check what spark plugs he changed them with - if they're Bosch then you'll need to take them out and put in the correct NGK ones, otherwise it won't rev properly.
ClioSport.net is a wealth of info as is the dedicated thread on here. Great little motors and the Trophy is the one to own if looked after and you get a good price.
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The longer the better if I could get away with it
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£60 was just a guess. I get MOT as trade price usually (£30-35) but given this isn't taxed, MOT'd or insured I'd prefer not to drive it the 25m to the station I normally use.
Oh yes. I remember the trip counter still showing reasonable figures when we were tearing around the countryside once as well
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Thanks for that suggestion. Do you have a rough idea what it'd cost? The car is actually in Notts which makes them look very tempting. There's a garage near me who's owner has various Clio sports and races them so I'd be looking to see that they would do it for too. If the thing passes it's MOT (I'm sure it will) I'd probably just throw it at them and let them tell me what they recommend needs to be done.
As for the dampers, as far as my friend's aware (and, I trust his judgement) they're still fine but thought he better point it out that they may well need doing. By a lot more I think he estimated around £1k for new, does that sound about right?
He asked for £5k. The trophy's do appear to sell like hot cakes mind, and appear to hold their value - mind, I've had my current car for 10 years (come October) so rescale value doesn't matter too much
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I'd definitely want to keep the Sachs. I've not been in a stock 182 but from everything I've been told you'd be pretty crazy to swap them out given that's mostly the benefit to the trophy. Almost seems silly to pay the premium one one then dumb it down.
Ouch, definitely a job for someone else then. Did you pay £340 for the pump, dephaser and belt all-in? If so that's not as scary as I first thought.
Cheers. Please tell me Brembo pads are perfectly fine and the added cost of the Ferodo's isn't needed
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I'm not looking to drive it at 100mph everywhere, it'll be driven fairly sensible most of the time.
Not having to spend cash I don't need to is perfectly fine with me. I don't know a huge amount about suspension mechanics. Is there a tell-tale sign they're failing?
As far as I'm aware it still has rear ones. My friend's very anal about keeping it entirely "stock Trophy" as in his words, it would just ruin it if you didn't.
Interesting that you mention £5k as that's what he's asking for - based on a lot of research as to that it's worth I imagine.
I'll go and have a look over there. I didn't want to post this thread there as it could be awkward if my friend had seen it.
Oh OK. As above he was looking at £5k based on a lot of research, which wasn't a special offer for me or anything. I suppose the benefit of this one is I know it's been looked after and not spent its life being handbraked around the countryside and seems to be relatively low mileage. What made the one you mentioned poor condition?
Decisions, then.
The MOT price was a completely guess- the place I normally use does it at trade price but it'd be easier getting it done locally (to the car) if possible beforehand.
It was definitely NGK's. Interesting Bosch don't work properly given Bosch is usually always premium. Replaced them as the car wouldn't start only to find out it was the immobiliser stopping it running and needing resetting. Facepalm!.
Good to see two people recommending that place. The other option as I mentioned above was http://www.20tenracing.co.uk/ who run a garage too. It's a few minutes from me and they seem to know their Renaults
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The longer the better if I could get away with it
.£60 was just a guess. I get MOT as trade price usually (£30-35) but given this isn't taxed, MOT'd or insured I'd prefer not to drive it the 25m to the station I normally use.
Oh yes. I remember the trip counter still showing reasonable figures when we were tearing around the countryside once as well
.Thanks for that suggestion. Do you have a rough idea what it'd cost? The car is actually in Notts which makes them look very tempting. There's a garage near me who's owner has various Clio sports and races them so I'd be looking to see that they would do it for too. If the thing passes it's MOT (I'm sure it will) I'd probably just throw it at them and let them tell me what they recommend needs to be done.
As for the dampers, as far as my friend's aware (and, I trust his judgement) they're still fine but thought he better point it out that they may well need doing. By a lot more I think he estimated around £1k for new, does that sound about right?
He asked for £5k. The trophy's do appear to sell like hot cakes mind, and appear to hold their value - mind, I've had my current car for 10 years (come October) so rescale value doesn't matter too much
.I'd definitely want to keep the Sachs. I've not been in a stock 182 but from everything I've been told you'd be pretty crazy to swap them out given that's mostly the benefit to the trophy. Almost seems silly to pay the premium one one then dumb it down.
Ouch, definitely a job for someone else then. Did you pay £340 for the pump, dephaser and belt all-in? If so that's not as scary as I first thought.
Cheers. Please tell me Brembo pads are perfectly fine and the added cost of the Ferodo's isn't needed
.I'm not looking to drive it at 100mph everywhere, it'll be driven fairly sensible most of the time.
Not having to spend cash I don't need to is perfectly fine with me
. I don't know a huge amount about suspension mechanics. Is there a tell-tale sign they're failing?As far as I'm aware it still has rear ones. My friend's very anal about keeping it entirely "stock Trophy" as in his words, it would just ruin it if you didn't.
Interesting that you mention £5k as that's what he's asking for - based on a lot of research as to that it's worth I imagine.
I'll go and have a look over there. I didn't want to post this thread there as it could be awkward if my friend had seen it
.Oh OK. As above he was looking at £5k based on a lot of research, which wasn't a special offer for me or anything. I suppose the benefit of this one is I know it's been looked after and not spent its life being handbraked around the countryside and seems to be relatively low mileage. What made the one you mentioned poor condition?
Decisions, then.
The MOT price was a completely guess- the place I normally use does it at trade price but it'd be easier getting it done locally (to the car) if possible beforehand.
It was definitely NGK's. Interesting Bosch don't work properly given Bosch is usually always premium. Replaced them as the car wouldn't start only to find out it was the immobiliser stopping it running and needing resetting. Facepalm!
.Good to see two people recommending that place. The other option as I mentioned above was http://www.20tenracing.co.uk/ who run a garage too. It's a few minutes from me and they seem to know their Renaults
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I sold my Trophy in November 2013 for £5.5K at a similar mileage. But she was basically immaculate.
If he is just mentioning the costs of the Sachs that need a refurb, they are fine at the moment then you cannot really complain too much. Depending on the last refurb, my friend did about 50K between rebuilds. It is just one of those things that is a known cost with the Trophy. O and its £1k per corner for a shock new.
If you want to know if they are failing. Open the doors, stand on the sill and bounce the car up and down. It shouldn't budge too much. If it starts rocking like a biatch then they have started to fail. Mine was caused when a spring snapped and caused extra load on the damper!
Check condition of steering wheel. Mine had a "Snappy" retrim. If standard exhaust, check that as they are a steaming pile of rusty waff.
The engine is a very particular beast and only likes NGK plugs. Nothing wrong with Bosch but its very......French in the parts it likes.
Brembo pads are fine. You can run standard if you want if you aren't going to track it. I had Brembo Sport Pads mated with Brembo HC discs. With uprated lines and fluid made for a great stopping package.
If he is just mentioning the costs of the Sachs that need a refurb, they are fine at the moment then you cannot really complain too much. Depending on the last refurb, my friend did about 50K between rebuilds. It is just one of those things that is a known cost with the Trophy. O and its £1k per corner for a shock new.
If you want to know if they are failing. Open the doors, stand on the sill and bounce the car up and down. It shouldn't budge too much. If it starts rocking like a biatch then they have started to fail. Mine was caused when a spring snapped and caused extra load on the damper!
Check condition of steering wheel. Mine had a "Snappy" retrim. If standard exhaust, check that as they are a steaming pile of rusty waff.
The engine is a very particular beast and only likes NGK plugs. Nothing wrong with Bosch but its very......French in the parts it likes.
Brembo pads are fine. You can run standard if you want if you aren't going to track it. I had Brembo Sport Pads mated with Brembo HC discs. With uprated lines and fluid made for a great stopping package.
£5.5k seems pretty good for an immaculate one. Turns out this one is actually £4.5k to me, which makes it slightly more palatable as it would bring the total price paid similar to yours once done up I guess. Think I'm going to get him to put it through an MOT anyway to see what needs doing, may find the discs/pads etc are fine for now - who knows.
Cheers for the info on the Sachs, I'll call in at some point and have a look - jumping on it beats tyre kicking! As far as I'm aware he's just mentioned them as a "just so you know" point, though he's not a mechanic.
Pretty sure it's the stock exhaust, I know he said that was the only mod he would ever consider doing to it, the rest had to stay Trophy spec.
I've currently got a Peugeot, I know all too well about French electrics. Before this Clio came up I was actually thinking of switching to an Octavia VRS (not a fan of Fabias), something tells me this 182 will be way more fun.
Cheers for the info on the Sachs, I'll call in at some point and have a look - jumping on it beats tyre kicking! As far as I'm aware he's just mentioned them as a "just so you know" point, though he's not a mechanic.
Pretty sure it's the stock exhaust, I know he said that was the only mod he would ever consider doing to it, the rest had to stay Trophy spec.
I've currently got a Peugeot, I know all too well about French electrics
. Before this Clio came up I was actually thinking of switching to an Octavia VRS (not a fan of Fabias), something tells me this 182 will be way more fun.