and dont forget pointing the finger at the uk for not doing enough, twice in the last week some nice man at the un's complained we need to take more refugee's.
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and dont forget pointing the finger at the uk for not doing enough, twice in the last week some nice man at the un's complained we need to take more refugee's.
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You hope?
Really. You hope?
Why should those that do not want immigration suffer in this country?
The whole thing is getting way out of control, mass movement of people into western countries, the increase in people from this country going to ISIS.
Lebanese communist people coming together to protect the borders made up of normal people these are staying to fight, yet those that leaving are leaving not protecting there cities etc.. the refugees that are coming here should be giving a gun and sent back.
All the women/ men should be given a gun and sent back to fight, children should be allowed to stay.
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But yours too is a statement for which I wish I had a penny for every time I have heard people use it.
It appears that if you do not want to see immigration or don't care for a particular culture then you are immediately labeled racist etc.
That is a totally unfair thing to say and is designed to cow the the individual who dares say this.
I would ask this of people - do you like everyone you meet or approve of every culture on the planet? If you believe in democracy then you also believe that everyone should be allowed freedom of expression, whether you agree or disagree with the view of the person expressing it.
Are you any better?
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Hoping that people are injured in a terrorist attack is completely different from people suggesting that maybe some refugees should be taken in.
I specifically didn't say that every person who opposes immigration is a racist because I'm aware that is not true and because it awakens robgmun who then posts a bunch of unrelated stuff about liberals and the Labour party. However, a huge number of people are unable to express an anti-immigration stance without also coming across as a racist. The post I quoted is one of those.
They "come across as racist" to the people who are looking to confirm their own bias against them.
If you are looking for something, you will find it.
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But if you read your own replies what makes you any better - you are just as intolerant but from a different point of view.
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They brought it on themselves when it happens, why should someone say yes let them in etc... and if anything happens they should be the 1st in line for any harm if it happens.
I'm not sure how not agreeing with certain points put forward here classes as being intolerant. Again, I was not saying that the poster I quoted is a racist, but that it is not hard to see how people can make that association when such ill thought out points are made.
What actions are the people saying "yes let them in" performing that would mean they are more deserving of becoming a victim of a violent attack?
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Love it don't you but there is more to that story you see when Kuwait was attacked by Iraq, the majority of immigrants ( specially refuees that were given perm status) emigrated out of the country and did not want to help.
Some even helped Iraq and became informers, this is why they dont want any and this is why we should not accept them.
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They need to accept responsibility and be part of that responsibility yes they are more deserving than those that don't want them here.
What you say is that everyone should accept responsibility just because of a group.
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I said this yesterday and stand by it. I think there should be a referendum among British people in order to gauge support for any further immigration.
The criteria has to be British born and bred with at least thirty years of paying taxes and NI into the system.
I would be more than happy to stand by the result though I suspect many would not be happy with this. I also suspect I know what the result would be too.
It's easy to bang a drum when you are young and have contributed next to nothing. I can however confirm ones views change with age and sacrifice.
The criteria has to be British born and bred with at least thirty years of paying taxes and NI into the system.
I would be more than happy to stand by the result though I suspect many would not be happy with this. I also suspect I know what the result would be too.
It's easy to bang a drum when you are young and have contributed next to nothing. I can however confirm ones views change with age and sacrifice.
No I'm calling you out on your desire for people who don't oppose housing refugees/migrants/whatever to be the victim of a terrorist attack. They are expressing a view on the current refugee situation, nothing more.
The responsibility for any terrorist attack lies with the people committing such atrocities.
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I'm expressing a view as you say, why should those that don't want to suffer.
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First of all fully star out your swearies otherwise you may get spanked by one of the mods... just friendly advice.
However your post would be highly amusing if it wasn't so sad and ill informed, the English speaking person will never be a minority in England, English is considered the most influential language in the world based on how many countries use it overall despite it being the 3rd most currently spoken language on the planet at a not so poultry estimated 360 million users. Fact. English is pretty much here to stay.
Or was your comment a poorly veiled attempt at reclassifying racism, after all its more polite that saying "the white english person will be the minority in this country" Erm no, White people make up 86% of the Ethnic breakdown of the UK according to the office of national statistics. So unless every white person somehow becomes sterilised by some terrorist plot you all seem to be expecting the chances of white English people becoming the minority are pretty darn slim.
Again you also make the unfounded suggestion that none of these migrants or refugees will contribute anything into the system, have you been to an NHS hospital lately? It is pretty common to find nurses and doctors etc from places not called England, Wales, Scotland or Ireland that are an integral and I do mean integral part of our NHS whom without them we would be without adequate healthcare at all. Okay that's one fairly ad lib example but even if you make an assumption that each migrant entering the UK will require 2 years worth of help, in education, housing and benefits before contributing anything to society; in the long term there is an overall economic gain even if you cut those drastically and say 50% will find employment and contribute. We still benefit.
But why can't you believe that British people are opening their homes to refugees, again imagine for example the UK is hit by some disaster or genocide and you've fortunately found yourself relatively safe in say Germany but in the short term you've got nowhere warm or safe to sleep at night so are faced with sleeping in a doorway or something equally as sad, would you not hope that someone would take pity on you and provide you a bed in the short term? If someone you know needed a bed or somewhere safe to stay would you not offer it, yes the difference is you don't know these people but despite fear mongering the chances these people are all Isis or thieves, rapists and murders and beyond small.
As for your comment about that buffoon David Cameron and his conservative ilk, he'd happily cut benefits for his own people no matter what situation the country is in and don't you forget it.
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think about it 1 miilion refugees with guns being set back the ISIS would not have a chance.
They shouldn't
nobody should be a victim of terrorism. To say a group is more deserving of it based on the views they express on the internet is quite sick.Anyone know Slovenia's response to this? Guessing its probably the same as Slovakia's, given how similar the two countries are. Seems all the central Euro countries that includes Slavic ones are very against Merkel's plans, so I imagine Slovenia would be in that too.
Can't find anything concrete on google, though. Amiga?
Can't find anything concrete on google, though. Amiga?
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We primarily need people coming in who will benefit society, i.e. those with skills.
Yes we should take in a small amount of the most vulnerable refugees but I believe it more important that we work to bring stability in their own country too.
Yes we should take in a small amount of the most vulnerable refugees but I believe it more important that we work to bring stability in their own country too.
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