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Yes. Have you seen the recent protests outside abortion clinics? Very nasty stuff.

There's also been incidents of Christian free schools teaching creationism in science classes.

Lmao people who compare Christianity to Islam are utterly deluded... that argument is old and boring.

You've got the pope there giving his regards to gay marriage. You know what they'll do to you in a Muslim country? cut your head off.

No comparison I'm afraid, and as I said before count the number of Christian related terror attacks compared to Islam. Someone did it in a thread ages ago and laid out most major events. There was hardly any comparison (Tip amount of ones related to Islam were far far far far far more). I didn't turn the TV on recently and see the world trade centres blown up by a bunch of fundamentalist christians, I haven't seen an organised group of people like ISIS burning people alive and crucifying them.

Enough with these stupid comparisons trying to make out Islam is some religion of peace that does no harm.

And more importantly what does Christianity have to do with ANY OF THIS?! why is it always some content. Some contest to prove look look everyone! it's not only Islam doing things! Yes, yes it is. Islam in my mind is one of the greatest threats of the modern age and mark my words with an influx of potential members of ISIS we're going to see more blood.
 
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as a northerner I welcome the SNP, they make us northern folk feel welcome whilst our own government abandons us as if we are living in some toxic wilderness
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Where is the North East ?!?!!?!?!?

SNP said they will have MPs in the north next time, wouldn't surprise me if the whole north east voted them in as our representatives

I grew up in Billingham, Stockton and Norton before I moved to Wiltshire and I appreciate the North East may feel left behind or even persecuted to an extent but the SNP would be a HUGE mistake and are certainly not the answer. Devolved power is in the North East and West. Not some Scottish fanatical fantasists.

Genuine question here but how do we integrate these people into society properly.

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Its a nice idea in theory but the execution of the integration seems like an almost impossible task without a huge willingness on the part of the refugees.

I think the last line summed it up. 'Willingness' There wouldn't be any of it with the handouts and free health care, why would there be?

If all the current/recent asylum seekers and immigrants is anything to go by the first thing the women will do is pop out a few children to get the british passport for their children and then from there they are in the system for life.

Isn't that the way it has been since the 70's?

who called racist?

The context you used EDL insinuates that's exactly what you were trying to state. How about instead of 'ah, you don't agree with my argument you must be a racist' how about we try 'ah, you've read my comment and unlocked the meaning, i'll renege on that comment and plead innocence'?

I never called you racist.

I said anyone that hates someone else for just being different is racist.

Similar to above, using UKIP and EDL as a defense mechanism is fairly weak though there's been enough comments on your comment already. I think you just misworded your posts. As I posted yesterday, I'll happily be called a xenophobe or racist if that's the only comeback people have to pragmatism and common sense.


Also the whole UKIP debate is pointless, they have done much to remove the remnants of the BNP from their foundation in 1996 I think it was and due to the nature of their policies they will always attract the 'racist' comments as Labour and Tories are running scared of them, this situation will increase their popularity no end and again, if being named a racist for continuing to support and vote for them then I'm a racist. :cool:
 
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If you don't support cultural and social degeneration through mass immigration = racist
if you support english culture = racist
if you say that white people have a culture = racist
if you are not for multiculturalism = racist
if you speak out against islam or christianity = racist
if you say that white people have a cultural and ethnic identity= racist
if you don't support jewish identity = racist
if you don't support muslim identity = racist
if you don't support african identity = racist
if you don't support turning the uk in a global socialists charity = racist

What did i miss?
 
I'd point out that Christianity past this point several centuries ago...

Yes,

Exactly it. And it passed this point to such a degree we saw the separation of the church and state along with a good portion of people becoming atheists in Europe.

You don't see this in Muslim countries.... I wonder why.....

This is why I get utterly bored with these ludicrous comparison contests THAT MEAN NOTHING. It doesn't change anything.

if you speak out against islam = racist

Fixed that for you, speaking out against Christianity is fine. Speaking out against Islam is intolerant.
 
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If you don't support cultural and social degeneration through mass immigration = racist
if you support english culture = racist
if you say that white people have a culture = racist
if you are not for multiculturalism = racist
if you speak out against islam or christianity = racist
if you say that white people have a cultural and ethnic identity= racist
if you don't support jewish identity = racist
if you don't support muslim identity = racist
if you don't support african identity = racist
if you don't support turning the uk in a global socialists charity = racist

What did i miss?

None of that makes someone a racist.
 
Yes,

Exactly it. And it passed this point to such a degree we saw the separation of the church and state along with a good portion of people becoming atheists in Europe.

You don't see this in Muslim countries.... I wonder why.....

Well, you can look back to a time when Christianity was a huge part of peoples lives and when a whole country was forced to change their "brand" of christianity on the whims of their king. Like it is in some muslim dominant countries and as ISIS are trying to achieve, you convert or you die.
 
If you don't support cultural and social degeneration through mass immigration = racist
if you support english culture = racist
if you say that white people have a culture = racist
if you are not for multiculturalism = racist
if you speak out against islam or christianity = racist
if you say that white people have a cultural and ethnic identity= racist
if you don't support jewish identity = racist
if you don't support muslim identity = racist
if you don't support african identity = racist
if you don't support turning the uk in a global socialists charity = racist

What did i miss?
not supporting and anti are not the same thing
 
If you don't support cultural and social degeneration through mass immigration = racist
if you support english culture = racist
if you say that white people have a culture = racist
if you are not for multiculturalism = racist
if you speak out against islam or christianity = racist
if you say that white people have a cultural and ethnic identity= racist
if you don't support jewish identity = racist
if you don't support muslim identity = racist
if you don't support african identity = racist
if you don't support turning the uk in a global socialists charity = racist

What did i miss?

I may have to repost this elsewhere, with your blessing ofc.

None of that makes someone a racist.

Apparently on the internet and BBC it does.
 
This just feeds the argument that Islam is a religion for the 13th Century. not this day and age.

Perhaps... however if one were to go to Riyadh and be openly gay, one would be getting a swift deportation.

Is this not proof?

Or looking at Iran and the leadership consisting solely of a religious entity...
 
None of that makes someone a racist.

Lol he knows that.... He was highlighting the complete stupidity of an alarming amount of people in this country. I think of them as the PC/ tolerance police that ironically seem to be completely intolerant of anyone with an opinion that's different from their own. It's generally the same idiots that took to Facebook ranting how conservatives won the election and they are going to march on parliament to get them out because the voting system isn't fair....even though they didn't mind when Blair won 3 times in a row. It's these sorts of people....
 
Yet to see one person who is not racist online.
Until everyone stops seeing people as refugees, Muslims, blacks,white, catholic ect racism will always exist.
People complain about immigration since when the hell do we own the plant
so we live in a location on this planet does not make it ours.
Mother nature created man yet man is not that great we are greedy and destroy everything we touch including the planet.
It does not matter what race or religion you are you are still human and you get both good humans and bad ones.
Over time the UK have invaded over 90% of the globe at one point or another yet we complain about a few immigrants wanting to save their lives. Ask yourself would you do the same in their shoes.
 
Perhaps... however if one were to go to Riyadh and be openly gay, one would be getting a swift deportation.

Is this not proof?

Or looking at Iran and the leadership consisting solely of a religious entity...

But that was my point, the religion of Islam is archaic and it isn't compatible with the 21st Century when it is so misinterpreted, predominantly by its own followers.

Being deported (as the best possible outcome) for being openly gay is testament to the ideology indoctrinated into Muslims. Not only in the Middle East but Africa and a plethora of countries around the world. Western society wasn't much better for a time but it has quickly adapted and accepted, even the US and the Church are becoming increasingly tolerant for want of a better word.
 
Yet to see one person who is not racist online.
Until everyone stops seeing people as refugees, Muslims, blacks,white, catholic ect racism will always exist.

Not seeing people for who they are is not the answer.
We absolutely need to see people for what and who they are.
Pretending that this issue is all in our heads solves nothing!

People complain about immigration since when the hell do we own the plant
so we live in a location on this planet does not make it ours.
Mother nature created man yet man is not that great we are greedy and destroy everything we touch including the planet.
It does not matter what race or religion you are you are still human and you get both good humans and bad ones.
Over time the UK have invaded over 90% of the globe at one point or another yet we complain about a few immigrants wanting to save their lives. Ask yourself would you do the same in their shoes.

What's your point? That unrestricted immigration is fine and won't cause issues because "we don't own the plant [sic]" ??? More idealism dreaming, I'm afraid. This is the real world, not the multi-culti promised land.
 
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