The EU Migrant Crisis

FoxEye · 10 Sep 2015 at 20:00

Would one of the pro-mass-immigration folks here like to explain all the rioting in by the immigrants?

Why they have come to Europe and now deem fit to throw rocks at police, fight each other, smash windows, etc.

Please justify this behaviour. I need a good laugh.

maltrabob · 10 Sep 2015 at 20:03

ak22 said:
From a ******** website like that? You must be joking... wouldn't be surprised if the EDL made that themselves.

Dig deeper and you will see. Don't care who runs the site, it is statistics I care about, nothing else.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Sources.htm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-30080914

CREATIVE!11 · 10 Sep 2015 at 20:04

anything I don't mind said:
Swearing in that one sorry.

Ahh yes I'm pleased with this offering of cultural enrichment.

I shall eat my fill.

chief barker · 10 Sep 2015 at 20:04

I hear a lot of people asking the question as to why most of the people that are fleeing Syria are young men.

Could it be that it's because Syria has national service?. And what we are seeing are cowards not willing to stay and fight for their country.

anything I don't mind · 10 Sep 2015 at 20:05

ak22 said:
Lol what rock do you live under? im suprised your location is London with statment like that. Just need bitslice and others to jump on bandwagon now good old GD

What?

Everything about muslims is racist, they have to wear their own special clothes, their food has to be all special, their entertainment has to be for muslims, they have to buy from muslims shops, they prefer doing business with other muslims and they prefer being social with other muslims. If white people acted in such an exclusive way the leftists heads would explode with the "that's racist" outbursts.

gettothechopper · 10 Sep 2015 at 20:08

chief barker said:
I hear a lot of people asking the question as to why most of the people that are fleeing Syria are young men.

Could it be that it's because Syria has national service?. And what we are seeing are cowards not willing to stay and fight for their country.

Who should they be fighting for? the oppressive government or the crazy nutjobs? :confused:

ak22 · 10 Sep 2015 at 20:08

maltrabob said:
Dig deeper and you will see. Don't care who runs the site, it is statistics I care about, nothing else.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Sources.htm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-30080914

Nice numbers..but have you actually read a page of Quran? or the Hadtith you do know what terrorism is sin in Islam right? Or do you listen to ISIL/boko Harma idiots who claim to be Muslims?

Like is said that website is ******** if you really want to know about muslims or islam read it from the source.

maltrabob · 10 Sep 2015 at 20:09

anything I don't mind said:
Everything about muslims is racist, they have to wear their own special clothes, their food has to be all special, their entertainment has to be for muslims, they have to buy from muslims shops, they prefer doing business with other muslims and they prefer being social with other muslims. If white people acted in such an exclusive way the leftists heads would explode with the "that's racist" outbursts.

Valid point, agree. We are too soft here in Europe which is sad.

anything I don't mind · 10 Sep 2015 at 20:12

ak22 · 10 Sep 2015 at 20:13

anything I don't mind said:
What?

Everything about muslims is racist, they have to wear their own special clothes, their food has to be all special, their entertainment has to be for muslims, they have to buy from muslims shops, they prefer doing business with other muslims and they prefer being social with other muslims. If white people acted in such an exclusive way the leftists heads would explode with the "that's racist" outbursts.

Hahaha not sure if trolling or just plain stupid.... White? what on earth does skin colour have to do with religion? You either believe in it and follow it or not. Their are white Muslim by the way..... I Suggest you go traveling around the world might open your mind a bit.

Anyway threads getting derailed here.

maltrabob · 10 Sep 2015 at 20:13

ak22 said:
Nice numbers..but have you actually read a page of Quran? or the Hadtith you do know what terrorism is sin in Islam right? Or do you listen to ISIL/boko Harma idiots who claim to be Muslims?

None of the above, I am a pagan and give no toss about religion this or that. I know, however, that since Muslims have no high authority like Christians (Pope), every ***hole is explaining islamic ideology the way that best suit them.

maltrabob · 10 Sep 2015 at 20:22

LOL, that's the way to do it. Finland to raise taxes to wealthy to cover cost of immigration. http://news.yahoo.com/finland-raise-taxes-wealthy-partly-cover-cost-migrants-135841935--business.html

Mind you, their economy is in recession for 4 consecutive years and unemployment rate is growing.

Germans, I would expect something in very similar fashion if I were you.

anything I don't mind · 10 Sep 2015 at 20:24

ak22 said:
Hahaha not sure if trolling or just plain stupid.... White? what on earth does skin colour have to do with religion? You either believe in it and follow it or not. Their are white Muslim by the way..... I Suggest you go traveling around the world might open your mind a bit.

Anyway threads getting derailed here.

So now conveniently muslims are not a "race", jewish people like to think they are a race. Still it is exclusive in its all ways, which is very similar to what manifest racism looks like. Whether based on ethnicity or religion it is still exclusive and just as bad as racism. It is just because religion for so long has been given the respect that people don't see it for its exclusivity. I think if white christians started saying that a certain way to dress like wearing jeans, was white christian and anyone who wore that was representing white christianity. It would be an exclusive and racist thing to do. Most muslims are arab and arab is a race, so we can at least say that there is exclusivity from arabs towards other arabs, especially when they share the very specific brand of islam.

I went to the middle east a few times and the arabs there are the most racist people you will ever meet. They treat the foreign workers like slaves and disrespect everyone who is not arab and muslim. Of course not all arabs are muslims act like this, I have met many muslims who are great people. I am just talking generally.

gettothechopper · 10 Sep 2015 at 20:25

FoxEye said:
Would one of the pro-mass-immigration folks here like to explain all the rioting in by the immigrants?

Why they have come to Europe and now deem fit to throw rocks at police, fight each other, smash windows, etc.

Please justify this behaviour. I need a good laugh.

Yes why on earth would people who haven't slept or eaten properly in weeks, who have walked hundreds of miles risking their lives in boats, who have seen people they know die for years during a horrible war - while losing everything they own and have to leave the place they have lived all their lives - who then get bumped around from place to place by people who don't have a clue what to do with them, probably have to sit around without a clue what's going to happen to them or where they are going to end up - why on earth would such desperate people act so desperately?

helpimcrap · 10 Sep 2015 at 20:28

I'm not pro-immigration or anything - the government screwed that up a long time ago by joining the EU and being the rent boys of Europe.

I am all for taking in refugees - genuine cases! It has been so poorly managed it is no wonder terrorists can do what they want. A seemingly simple operation of man management has gone so badly wrong.

Stick them in a refugee camp, have a world war with Russia over Syria, when we win, send them back to a peaceful place.

Simples.

ak22 · 10 Sep 2015 at 20:29

maltrabob said:
None of the above, I am a pagan and give no toss about religion this or that. I know, however, that since Muslims have no high authority like Christians (Pope), every ***hole is explaining islamic ideology the way that best suit them.

You don't need a higher authority to read you a book. The Christians themselves have their own interpretations, sects Catholics, Protestants, Orthodox the list goes on.

I don't see your point even with the Pope as leader you still get so called Christians murdering people, you still get priests sexually assaulting children.

helpimcrap · 10 Sep 2015 at 20:31

gettothechopper said:
Yes why on earth would people who haven't slept or eaten properly in weeks, who have walked hundreds of miles risking their lives in boats, who have seen people they know die for years during a horrible war - while losing everything they own and have to leave the place they have lived all their lives - who then get bumped around from place to place by people who don't have a clue what to do with them, probably have to sit around without a clue what's going to happen to them or where they are going to end up - why on earth would such desperate people act so desperately?

+1 - for genuine cases I can understand. We have no idea how they feel. Until we've been in that situation we can only sympathise which doesn't come close.

chief barker · 10 Sep 2015 at 20:33

gettothechopper said:
Who should they be fighting for? the oppressive government or the crazy nutjobs?

Imagine if in 1940 there was a long line of young fit British men applying for asylum in the U.S.A. what would we call them? Scum of the earth probably.

Destination · 10 Sep 2015 at 20:33

ak22 said:
Hahaha not sure if trolling or just plain stupid.... White? what on earth does skin colour have to do with religion? You either believe in it and follow it or not. Their are white Muslim by the way..... I Suggest you go traveling around the world might open your mind a bit.

Yes and the white Muslims can be just as racist as the non-whites.
Whether Islam is religion and indeed also race is open to some debate and has been debated at length.

As for this 'migrant' crisis, the situation remains, until the region is stabilised, and sterilised, there will be no end to the crisis, it will enlarge and spill outwards.
It needs to be fixed at source.

Destination · 10 Sep 2015 at 20:34

chief barker said:
Imagine if in 1940 there was a long line of young fit British men applying for asylum in the U.S.A. what would we call them? Scum of the earth probably.

If you were 21, and born is Syria, what side would you fight with? From the 13 or 14 available? Or might you chose to take your wife and children elsewhere.

Serious question.